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Every single company, even a sole entrepreneur needs legal aid to navigate basic shit, GDPR is literally the least of it.
Again, employment contracts, supplier contracts, terms of service, who does all that? Are you aware what goes into running a business?
With due respect, you are very much out of touch. Few businesses employ full-time lawyers. Think about the businesses you interact with in your personal, daily life. Shops, restaurants, handymen, doctors, ... Which of those do you think have a lawyer on the staff? Large chains will have entire legal departments, but not your ordinary small business. That's how such regulations favor the big incumbents, as has been pointed out.
How many lemmy instances are run by lawyers, do you think?
All that costs a lot of money. Contrary to what you might expect, many businesses will think that's splendid. The customer pays and not the business. If a business is good at navigating regulations, then the extra cost becomes a competitive advantage. It's just the customer who's stuck with the enshittification.
Even a sole entrepreneur needs to consult a lawyer to get started. GDPR compliance is actually much easier than employment law in most of the EU.
You don't need a lawyer on staff, you need one on appointment, that's all.
How many have been sued or shut down by GDPR related stuff? If anything, this proves the GDPR is not a barrier for a random person to own and operate a small social media site. So what's the problem?
Lemmy servers have to deal with way more than just GDPR.
Some people get away with tax fraud. Does that mean that tax laws don't matter?
Someone once told me that it doesn't matter that the EU makes bad laws. They just exist to give law enforcement something to work with. To me, that sounds like enabling corruption. Some Americans claim that these regulations are just to shake down US firms. Sometimes I wonder if they are right.
I still don't get your point, if Lemmy servers have a higher barrier to entry than just doing GDPR, why would GDPR be a barrier to entry for them?
More senseless regulations mean more work and more risk. Also, the enforcement mechanisms are different. So, in terms of corruption, more people get a say in whether you can go ahead.
So the solution to corruption is to not have rules at all? And what "senseless regulations" do you mean? If you want to deal with people's data, you have to respect the people, that's all. You can avoid the whole thing by not collecting people's data.
Is it really unthinkable to have rules that are applied equally to all?
Not true. Besides, some things just don't work otherwise, like lemmy.
It is true though. And rules are in fact applied equally.
You probably also think that this lemmy instance is compliant. Well, that's why your firm has a professional lawyer.