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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guarantee you that KSA only wants a nuclear program for weapons, and that the US is knowingly providing it to them. This is part of the negotiation for tolerance of Israel by KSA. It is impossible to have an informed position that supports the economic value of nuclear energy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I guarantee you that Saudi Arabia needs the electricity. Cooling a house when it is 50C and humid isn’t cheap. Photovoltaic solar decreases in efficiency past 25C. Saudi Arabia currently has one of the highest CO2 emissions per capita. It has plenty of uranium that it can cheaply use to keep the air conditioners on, but you would rather them burn gas and oil instead despite all the guarantees and willingness to cooperate.

https://www.mees.com/2024/3/22/power-water/power-surge-saudi-arabias-electricity-demand-soars-to-new-heights/77954bf0-e863-11ee-8ef9-8b17479eb3dd

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

but you would rather them burn gas and oil instead

KSA has been big on solar announcements, slow on completion. The temperature coeficient of solar panels is improving, but still plenty good enough to get much better power yields/$ than nuclear. Desert climate means low enough overnight temperature even in summer. Most of the country has low humidity in summer. Solar is exceptionally well suited to its power demand. Most of the world has very fast deployment of solar. US nuclear weapons charade is going to be slow walked no matter how many RE deals Trump signs. Netanyahu still in charge, with loyal congress and State dept minions.

Nuclear energy is slow to build, and highly prone to corruption. Where US deep state, and contractors, can string along a desperate KSA to pay more for mistakes/delays, they will. You also need to stay in an energy shortage position, that burns oil/gas instead of building out renewables quickly, while the big output of nuclear is under planning/construction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They could just use civilian nuclear like neighbor UAE, a proven technology that’s known to work. I don’t understand your objection to the use of nuclear power. China is now building them fast and cheap.

Would you be okay if Saudi Arabia accepted the US terms and only bought ready fuel from the US a la UAE?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-08-28/china-s-fast-and-cheap-nuclear-gives-its-climate-ambitions-a-boost

KSA has been big on solar announcements, slow on completion.

Because the photovoltaic cells do melt in the heat, they actually need to be actively cooled. Saudi Arabia did build a solar thermal plant to power a factory.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2022/06/02/worlds-biggest-solar-plant-to-decarbonize-aluminum-industry-in-saudi-arabia/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They do not melt in heat. Their output is 10% lower at 45C higher temperature than 25C.

China has already reduced its nuclear permits and cancelled some projects, due to solar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They do melt in the heat and require cooling. It is 35C at night and much hotter during the day, and it is hot and humid all year in the coastal cities where the majority lives.

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/07/12/solar-module-cooling-techniques-for-the-desert/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1018363921000453

The temperature of the panels will be hotter than the air around it.