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I'm not celebrating that a bad person died, but that the bad people are afraid. It's fucked up to think any justice was delivered from the death of one guy. The justice comes from how this motivates people to work towards systemic change; a world where these rich sickos are held back rather than encouraged. These rich people are not like us, and their panic is driving that truth home. Make them panic more. Let them widen the divide between us and them. Force them to show their true colors.
Simping for him is the right thing for us to do. It furthers his act of terror against the rich without spilling any blood. It doesn't matter that it's an empty threat for most of us; the more we celebrate him, the more people will take out their anger on the best targets imaginable.
If we don't do it, that lonely white man will just shoot innocent people for infamy like they've been doing. They will join the cops or vigilante fascists in lynching trans people of color like me to scratch their itch for blood. This agitation propaganda is helpful in combating the agit-prop from the right. They've been doing stochastic terrorism against children for years, so fuck them and their mother if they complain about civility.
We're in a state of nature now, with no political or economic sovereignty to speak of. We don't have any human rights thanks to these rich idiots not appreciating the sweet deal they had, so I only feel empowered when I call their murderer hot.
I can't believe that after thousands of years humanity still struggles with "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
When under attack, defend yourselves. When a potential possible attack some time in the future seems likely, or when a benefit provided by society via democratic system is taken away, if you attack preemptively then you're probably just a POS.
We might be happy this time, but the next person might kill somebody we like. They might feel emboldened to target trans folk and democratic socialists. If violence escalates to riots then one side might start gunning the other down in the street. The only people who want the poor and ignorant to kill each other are enemies of our society as a whole.
You do not get to decide who lives or dies. No one does.
The violence has been escalating longer than you've been alive. This instance is smaller than the day before it.
You don't have a problem with violence, you just dislike it when it's done to the rich.
I explicitly did like when it was done to the rich, but that doesn't mean I have to like the perpetrator. The enemy of my enemy is just some dude with a gun.
That dude with a gun left an unmistakable political message on his casings that resonates with literally every single American that has never been massively wealthy. Disliking him for pretty much any public thing we know about him paints you as the type of person that honestly has a few casings waiting for you someday unless you give up your wealth and work towards helping your new found class.
Please respond without telling someone else that they may be murdered
The only way, shape, or form that this "message" is "political" is that it is apparent less people believe in politics than ever.
Go read the book, then go ahead and edit your comments so you don't look as silly.
Wow look at that pointless non-argument. Just call your opponent uneducated and ridiculous. Gosh, I better respond in kind, when in rome and all that.
Nope, just ignorant. You're ignorant. I don't doubt you've been educated enough to read the book in question, but you've specifically and explicitly shown that you have not read the book in question.
Now instead of taking the advice to heart and growing, you're dismissing all criticism. That's okay. I'm sure you're right. Go back to posting on reddit, le epic sir.
That was a reference to the texts the perpetrator had written in the shell casings he used, which were a reference to a book. He definitely sent a message with the act, and it was very much a political one at that.
Pretty solidly sure the book didn't tell people to go out and murder people. The author, Rutgers Law professor Jay M. Feinman, has refused to comment but given his career probably has a fair bit more faith in the institution of law as an avenue to right wrongs than you or the shooter.
But I'll bite, what do YOU think the political message is, here? What exactly is going to change, now?
Was the Monopoly Money authorities claim was in his backpack some kind of grand 4D chess statement? What is the master plan for that, the intended response to the monopoly money as a statement?
It was a murder. Mentioning the name of the book gives it a political motive. A political murder is a political message. It's not that complicated, I'm just pointing this out to you since it evidently flew over your head earlier and the other commenter didn't spell it out for you.
Shitting yourself in public while poorly doing La Cucaracha doesn't become political if you yell out "A Higher Loyalty. Truth, Lies, and Leadership!" after the fact. That's not being political, Deme. It doesn't present any proposed solutions or represent any ideologies. If anything it's a bit insulting to insinuate that the people they quoted wanted it to happen.
Damn you went all out with the absurdity of that straw man. Nice one!
Politicians are constantly criticizing their opponents without necessarily presenting alternative solutions. A murder done with a political motive is a political murder. A political murder is a political message. "The system sucks so bad that there are people out there who are willing to take arms because of it." That's the message, in case you seriously still had not figured it out yourself.
The book was only referenced in order to emphasize that political motive by bringing up the fact that the health insurance sector is rotten and many have grievances against it. The methods the author would prefer are irrelevant to that fact, as the shooter clearly arrived at a different conclusion.