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[–] ironhydroxide 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"I can't do anything to help people, so I'll actively hurt the ones who are worst off already instead" is not a very good theory.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

More like "no matter how much I do to help those I can, there will be some outliers that my only recourse is to make them unwelcome because it's actually a really complex problem that I don't I have the resources and time to solve, unfortunately also making things worse for other people but that's the lesser of two evils".

My whole point is that many of these measures are done by the people who aren't equipped or otherwise able to deal with the problem beyond just protecting themselves. It's a shitty situation but don't get mad at the people who deal with it the best they can with what options they have available. It's like getting mad at someone because they locked up their bike instead of tackling the societal problems that lead to bike theft in the first place. How many bikes do you expect them to have stolen before they'll just start locking it up?

Get mad at the ones cutting programs or refusing to create them. Get mad at a system that refuses to help people because it pretends when something bad happens that person deserved it somehow. Don't get mad at the park maintenance staff that removes a bench because they can't have their staff be assaulted or children finding needles anymore; they can't stop it from happening at all, so the best they can do is try and stop it from happening there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

We haven't done that much to help the ones we can, forget about the outliers.

[–] ironhydroxide 1 points 3 weeks ago

You think I'm mad at the staff, for their manglement deciding to remove benches? No I'm mad at the out of touch managers and higher decision makers. Who, while being in a position to make these decisions, are ALSO more likey to be in positions to make the decisions on cutting other support programs.