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[–] starman2112 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I agree that it's the Democrats' fault that they lost, but I stand by the assertion that people who would rather not vote at all than vote for the lesser of two evils are partially to blame when the greater of two evils wins.

I didn't say they wanted a Trump presidency, I said they didn't want a Harris presidency. I only congratulated them on their efforts to prevent that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The people saying "Genocide, punishing immigrants, tough-on-crime rhetoric, and complicated, means-tested bullshit decreases your bases turnout" are not at fault for those unpopular policies decreasing turnout. Everyone who failed to publicly criticize the dems so they could maintain the delusion they could win while promising to do the opposite of what the people whose votes they depend on want are far more culpable.

[–] starman2112 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No, the people who decided not to vote because the better candidate wasn't better enough are to blame

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I can agree both those things happened, but you're saying one of them had a much stronger effect and so far i'm not seeing any evidence presented