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Summary

The 2024 presidential election saw record-high turnout nearing 2020 levels, with over 152 million ballots cast.

Donald Trump won both the Electoral College and the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes, defying conventional wisdom that high turnout benefits Democrats.

Key swing states like Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania had increased turnout, with Trump outperforming Kamala Harris in battlegrounds despite her strong voter mobilization.

The GOP’s focus on early and mail voting, as well as targeting infrequent voters, proved effective, signaling a shift in Republican turnout strategies in the Trump era.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Trump basically got the same number of votes as 2020. Someone else didn't show up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (6 children)

That's possible and what a lot of people are saying.

It's also possible people who voted for Biden voted for Trump instead.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

"Big voter turnout" to me would still be wrong.
155+ million voters in 2020

Population increases by roughly 6 million

Less than 150 million voters in 2024.

If we consider decreasing voter turnout high turnout, sure, it was high. That said, yes some voters likely swayed, but I'd like 80-90% voter turnout to be considered high, but we never get that.

[–] booly 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Less than 150 million voters in 2024.

It's more than 150 million. The current count is about 153 million, and there's still more left to count in California.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

11 days later and still counting, jeez. There as to be better ways to do that.

[–] booly 1 points 3 days ago

Several states have rules that the mail-in ballots have to be dropped in the mail on election day, and the mail can take a few days to be received, confirmed as eligible/valid, and then counted.

Many states have rules that allow for people to submit provisional ballots to be submitted and set aside while the system verified that the voter is eligible, and they don't actually unseal and count the ballot until they confirm the voter's eligibility.

Some even have rules where if a ballot is going to be challenged for not meeting the criteria for voting, such as matching the voter's signature on file, the voter is given an opportunity to cure the defect. This can take weeks.

Significantly, the largest state, California, does all of these. They do 100% absentee voting, which increases the administrative overhead of counting (each envelope must be validated before being opened, many ballots not received by election day, a long process for disqualifying or curing ballots). So they're the slowest. And they have the most. But they also have high voter participation rates, which is the goal of these voter-friendly policies that slow down counting.

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