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lol. do you honestly think there are psyop campaigns on Lemmy? for all 12 of us? lololol. I thought I was paranoid, but goddamn.
Do you know how much it costs to run a chat bot?
What, you don't think Russia can afford it?
Do you know how much it costs to start a war? Do you think russia is a fiscally responsible terrorist organisation?
Pretty sure the Russian economy just passed Japan's in terms of GDP. I'm not saying they can't afford it. I'm saying that paying Tim Pool and buying up Facebook ads is a lot cheaper and far more effective.
Wtf are you on about. Japan's GDP is more than twice as big as russias. Both per capita and annual.
I'm telling you that russia does not give a fuck about effectiveness.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD?locations=RU-JP
I'm talking PPP, not dollars since that doesn't make sense for a sanctioned country that doesn't have legal dollar exchange mechanisms.
Oh wow, you found a metric where russia better, besides alcoholism!
By PPP metric India is better off than Germany, France and UK combined.
When you're sanctioned to shit, you probably don't have a lot of alternatives of what you can and cannot buy...
You're comparing "Local Market" data, when talking about puchasing ads from X and Facebook...
Congrats, you've earned youself a tag.
you don't think 1 billion people have more economic output than the 150 million or so that live in Germany, France and the UK? That's pretty fucking racist.
Oh, so NOW we're taking into account population?
So, by your own link, russia has not surpassed Japan, no.
Either way, "economic output" is what I give zero shits about. It's quality of life what matters. Everything else is statistical wank for finance bros.
Not sure why you brought up incorrect comparisons of russia's economy to a conversation about their fiscal responsibility, which has been proven to be idiotic (as it often is in autocratic oligarchies)
I'm just responding to a comment about them being able to afford it. They clearly have money on hand, which makes per capita GDP metrics a non sequitur given the oligarchic nature of Russia. Since it's a war economy with a huge degree of state centralization, looking at total economic power makes a lot more sense, to me at least.
Why are we talking about quality of life suddenly? At no point did I say Russia was better than Japan-- i said they have plenty of capital and a relatively cheap labor pool.
I'm conceding that Russia can, in fact, waste money on Lemmy trolls. I still don't think it's at all likely and would be very happy to see some mod logs that prove me wrong.
Do you think there are Russian trolls on every discord server and IRC chat room too? It must be exhausting to live like that.
Okay, you use the "metric" that makes most sense to you. Best, keep those metrics and comparisons to yourself.
Why? I don't give two shits about them. They're a waste of blood and organs, I tag them and move on with my life. Just like christo-fashist muricans.
It must be exhausting being a simp for russia though. Trying to squeeze out every "positive" graph and putting so much effort into trying to prove that 'russia stronk bliat' should be exhausting.
lol. Didn't realize the world bank was a Russian asset. My bad.
I'm not blaming the graphs you dunce. Read again.
Why are you insulting me for disagreeing with you?
Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you is a foreign agent?
How am I being pro Russia? I called them oligarchic AND pointed out that any strength implied by that graph is due from war expenditures and not some underlying strength.
if PPP wasn't a useful indicator of purchasing power, it probably wouldn't be called purchasing power parity and be published by the World Bank.
My only claim here is that it would be silly to waste time on Lemmy when there are bigger and easier fish to fry. I'm not even denying Russian propagandists exist and called Tim Pool a shill.
I am incredibly amused that this somehow adds up to being a Russian troll rather than someone who can hear and acknowledge opinions that are different than my own.
Good luck with the whole fascism thing. I'm sure your echo chamber will win the election next time!
I'm insulting you because you're arguing in bad faith on purpose
Is this "everyone" in the room with you right now? Nowhere in our exhange did I call you an agent or a troll. I did call you a simp though.
How am I being pro Russia? I called them oligarchic AND pointed out that any strength implied by that graph is due from war expenditures and not some underlying strength.
That's not how statistics and data work at all.
Because russia is known to be a mastermind expanding galaxy brain. No silly decisions there.
Your weird fantasy again
No u
Purchasing power parity isn't used to measure purchasing power?
Fuck. I might have to discard my multiple advanced degrees in mathematics.
I'm not arguing in bad faith. I'm sharing my opinion, backed by my own research experience in Cybersecurity and AI that this seems incredibly unlikely and kindly provided a source for the numbers I cited while you continuously insult me.
Occam's razor would suggest that everyone who disagrees with you on the internet isn't a simp for Russia and that a diversity of opinions is natural.
I've not said anything positive about Russia at all-- just that their PPP is higher than Japan's, which isn't an opinion at all.
At this point you're having an imaginary conversation with your imaginary people. You're trying to put words in my mouth and you're failing miserably.
...my multiple advanced degrees in mathematics...
...cybersecurity and AI...
LMAO. Truly LMAO.
Teach me how to have this level of patience
work in academia. The peer reviews are far more brutal than existing on the internet.
Makes sense
"I am very smrt"
nah, just published and cited for work on power management for AI training
Oh you're published? It's cute you think that means anything in this context.
Russia is known to pay flesh-and-blood human beings to act as agents in information campaigns. The fact that you don't know that and just assumed I was talking about chat bots for no apparent reason tells me everything I need to know. It's why I was mocking you; your statement just had nothing to do with what was being spoken of, and you're either dishonest or too oblivious and self-absorbed to realize that.
For the record, there are full grown adults who were born after my first research project with publishable results.
ah. right. I totally forgot how flesh and blood people were cheaper than chat bots (they aren't) and that they have tons of excess manpower to throw at the task-- that's why they're relying on North Koreans to defend Kursk.
Yeah, they paid Tim Pool and other right wing podcasters to shill for them, but there's no evidence anywhere that they're targeting fucking Lemmy. It's an absurd position given the size of the user base and the nature of federation.
How much is a Facebook ad these days? probably a lot cheaper than paying people to troll you in their non native language.