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The movement to swear off men: No sex. No dating. No marriage. No children. (19thnews.org)

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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is your suggested solution concretely? are blaming young women for the problems of young men.

[–] starman2112 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, they're blaming the Democratic party and its online advocates for not taking young men seriously as a voting demographic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, read their comment. They think women should fuck progressive men to stop them from becoming right wing.

[–] starman2112 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, that's a very naive and simplistic way of reading this thread. Jax's comment

[...] You want to help create more MAGATs? Keep ignoring young men and the problems they have.

Wasn't supporting the literal suggestion that "women should just give up their bodies to these disgusting creatures for the good of the country," it was regarding Eatspancakes84's dismissive attitude towards the genuine problems that young men face.

Problems that, I will add, the Republican party will not fix. Voters are stupid though, and vote based on vibes. If the vibe of one side is "I don't give a shit about you," and the vibe of the other side is "you matter and your problems are valid," the average voter is more likely to vote for the latter, if at all.

I'll also add that women do in fact face more problems than men. Your rights are being eroded much faster than ours. My discussion of how to convince men to vote for our side should not be interpreted as dismissal of women's issues. All I'm saying (and it is all that I'm saying) is that we need to avoid situations where apathetic or conservative men see our comments and think we don't give a shit about them. Not because I want to protect the feelings of conservative men, but because we needed their votes, and we will need their votes to prevent another Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What about your dismissive attitudes towards women and how it drives them away? What about the problems men refuse to fix that women bring up?

You are catering to men who want to enslave us. I recommend the book "Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist." It will show you that it's pointless to cater to them. They were always going to be hostile.

[–] starman2112 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about your dismissive attitudes towards women and how it drives them away?

Someone didn't read my reply.

I'll also add that women do in fact face more problems than men. Your rights are being eroded much faster than ours. My discussion of how to convince men to vote for our side should not be interpreted as dismissal of women's issues. All I'm saying (and it is all that I'm saying) is that we need to avoid situations where apathetic or conservative men see our comments and think we don't give a shit about them. Not because I want to protect the feelings of conservative men, but because we needed their votes, and we will need their votes to prevent another Trump win.

You can reply if you want, but I'm done

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I did and I dismissed your claim you werent dismissing women. Now you're dismissing me again. Answer me. Stop dismissing me.

What about your dismissive attitude and how it drives women away? Women are an easier demographic to get to vote left, after all.