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Some of my recent attempts that did not work out.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

@[email protected], as far as I can tell, you always use Bing Image Creator.

And as far as I can tell, @[email protected] always uses Midjourney.

I don't use either. But as far as I know, neither service currently charges for generation of images. I don't know if there's some sort of different rate-limit that favors one over the other, or another reason to use Bing (perhaps Midjourney's model is intentionally not trained on Sailor Moon?), but I do believe that Midjourney can do a few things that Bing doesn't.

One of those is inpainting. Inpainting, for those who haven't used it, lets one start with an existing image, create a mask that specifies that only part of the image should be regenerated, and then regenerate that part of the image using a specified prompt (which might differ from the prompt used to generate the image as a whole). I know that Thelsim's used this feature before with Midjourney, because she once used it to update an image with some sort of poison witch image with hands over a green glowing pot, so I'm pretty sure that it's available to Midjourney general users.

I know that you recently expressed frustration with Bing's Image Creator's current functionality, wanted more.

Inpainting's time-consuming, but it can let a lot of images be rescued, rather than having to just re-reroll the whole image. Have you tried using Midjourney? Was there anything there that you found made it not acceptable?

[–] thelsim 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The inpainting has improved a lot since then. Recently they introduced an external editor that allows you to do more accurate inpainting and even retexturing.
For example, taking one of the images here.

With retexturing I can write: A 1900s photograph, of sailor moon and politicians and a xenomorph, in congress
And have it transformed while keeping the original characters:

There's also the option to repaint:

And to expand the image:

But things it doesn't do well is accurate stuff, like flags, characters, that kind of thing. It likes to hallucinate a little so, for example, you won't get a perfect flag. And even a sailor moon will often look a bit off-brand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Thanks for trying it out! Both the inpainting and outpainting -- the expansion -- worked better than I'd expected, though I dunno if that's exactly what M0oP0o's after.

[–] thelsim 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Another one I completely forgot about, I also have access to the NovelAI image generator, which is completely anime trained. It has a ton of different features that I never use. I just use it as a writing aid for myself, the image generation was kind of tacked on later but grew into it's own thing.

There's a mood changer:

Line art (which removes the dollar bill, weirdly enough ) :

And of course inpainting:

There's also some kind of outpainting, but like I said, I hardly ever use this tool. Here's a tutorial if you want to read more about it:
https://blog.novelai.net/tutorial-intro-to-image-generation-ef644a1a4885

Oh and it's completely privacy focused, so images are only saved to your computer.

cc: @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I will give it a try as well always good to have more options, and I am not 100% only free options.

Funny note on the images. Mine where failures because I could not get a normal sailormoon with a floating bill with wings and a halo. Its funny to see all these with the anglemoon and normal money.

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