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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I kinda hate to be this guy, but:

Know this does not exist in any other country

It is unnecessary in any other country

America has entirely constructed its own hell by simply not applying the same appropriate gun control you see in every other developed nation in the world

Edit: and I know you probably agree with me, but goddamn you've just collectively proven as a nation that over half your countrymen will bazooka their feet and the feet of everyone unfortunate enough to be near them, before even contemplating the idea of supporting someone who promises to make their lives better!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

100%

It's a response to an entirely self-inflicted problem.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's not true,

As example, 2 years ago I was in Strasbourg for the winter markets and saw 2 things:

  1. Roving squads of military and police armed with submachine guns and even battle rifles. (Some in blue police uniforms, some in camo)
  2. I tried to get a photo from above everything and explored some stairwells. (I like urban exploration) I opened an upper floor office door and was startled by a room full of cops with binoculars and rifles leaning on the wall / resting on a table. They were not very happy with me and it took me about an hour of being a dumb tourist to disengage.

I saw similar on foot squads in Germany too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An hour?? That's crazy-- seems like their fault the room wasn't secure, but they had to harass you for that long before letting you go?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Checked my passport, called my hotel, checked my flights. agree, honest mistake it should have taken a few minutes. Also I doubt it was a full hour but man it felt like a lifetime.

Edit I don't think I was actually detained but they spooked me into agreeing to hang around while they verified things

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] taladar 8 points 1 month ago

That is more along the lines of high government official protection at special events they attend in other countries though, not a standard practice at normal sports games.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You said that hate misinformation, but in the first link it was a guy approaching the president, not a random game, also I always laugh when someone compare USA to Brasil and get mad when I answer that USA is a third world country

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

If you think that's misinformation idk what to tell you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every single big event all over the world has the potential to be a target for a terrorist attack.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every time you leave your house you have a chance to be hit by a car. It's many orders of magnitude more likely than to get killed by a terrorist attack. Yet everyone still drives cars.

The fear of terrorism has been used to curtail so many liberties. Always as a temporary measure. Draconian pre-flight security screenings? (seriously, not being allowed to bring water?): "temporary". Expansion of the surveillance state and policing: "temporary".

It's time to start asking wether this is all worth it. The fetishization of "security above all" in modern political rhetoric is a bad thing, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In your buzzword filled rant to sound smart and further your own agenda you have succeeded in being completely up your own ass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Explain your position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Which you claim is...?

I stated my position quite clearly. Do you suggest some deeper agenda is at work here?