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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The "Infinite monkey theorem" concerns itself with Probability (the mathematical field). It has been mathematically proven that given the random input (the mathematical kind - not the human-created kind) of the monkeys, and the infinite time, the probability of the "complete works of William Shakespeare" rolling out of the typewriter in between the other random output is 1.

It's a mathematical theorem that just uses monkeys to speak to the imagination, not a practical exercise, other than to prove the maths.

You should look into another brain-breaking probability problem called the "Monty Hall Problem". Note that some of the greatest mathematical minds of the time failed said puzzle. Switching 100% increases the chance of winning. No, it won't guarantee a win, but it will increase your chances, mathematically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I get that, what I'm arguing is that monkey input != random input. Therefore the probably is not 1.

And the Monty Hall problem is really cool, and yes, I've seen it before, but it doesn't have anything to do with this one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The proof assumes that the monkeys mash the keys at random and that there is a nonzero probability to write any chunk of text appearing in Shakespeare's works. If there is a section that the monkeys cannot generate, for example if we removed the letter 'e' from their typewriter, the monkeys will never write the complete works of Shakespeare regardless of the amount of time spent on it, so their point still stands and it depends on the assumptions you make about the monkey typists' typing skills.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The probability is 1 but that does not mean that it will happen. There is a set of options where it does not happen. It happens "almost surely".