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I've been trying to make people aware of Lemmy on discord and Mastodon, but it's always met with resistance citing "the devs are pro authoritarianism tankies." Kbin seems to be picking up steam because of the developer baggage.

Do you feel like this negative perception will hamstring Lemmy's growth?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm totally cool with a social network where a variety of political opinions are allowed to be voiced, but the problem comes when criticism of some politics is censored. For example, I'm pretty pro-left/socialist but I also think it's important to point out human rights atrocities like Tiannenmen Square and the Holodomor

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I’m pretty pro-left/socialist but

The Lib-Leftist Caveat. AES States never survive the Western smell test, for some crazy reason. You can only do Leftism my way.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Another user, holygon, posted from an instance that lemmy.ca blocks and someone else requested a lemmy.ml account repost it. If you want my own opinions, ask and I'll discuss it, but on this comment everything forward is from that user:

Alright since there is a claim here that you are cool with political opinions being voiced, I’m gonna assume that you mean this, and you’re not just saying so.

Now since you say that you are pro-left/socialist, I’m gonna assume that you are aware that the west/The US has lied in the past about other countries, and their atrocities? (Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.) Please follow me here, read, and then judge afterwards. I’m not asking you to believe me fully after a single post, I’m just gonna give you some articles from providers that you probably trust, and I’m going to let you form your own opinion afterward.

Tiananmen Square:

  1. The Telegraph reports on WikiLeaks source, that there was no actual bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square. Read the entire thing, there is of course nuance. Link is through 12ft to get around paywall

  2. The BBC admits to being wrong about a lot of their reporting. Quote: “There was no massacre on Tiananmen Square.”

  3. Interview with one of the protest leaders of the Student Protest movement. He is still critical of the Chinese government. He says that there was no tanks in Tiananmen Square, and that it is dangerous to lie just to try to win.

Now these are just the sources that explain this. If you look far enough you will also find pictures of dead Chinese soldiers burned to a crisp, strung up by the neck. These pictures are hard to look at. But maybe you think that the protest was just. Okay. But please understand that even western media does not actually think there was a massacre in the Square.