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Bernie Sanders to voters skipping presidential election over Israel: ‘Trump is even worse’
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I have not seen many leftists not agree that both votes are for genocide - that's just a given.
But protesting the system during the election is daft. Do you want genocide, or more genocide? You are not a slave to the system if you vote and then actually do something about it to change it.
Ignoring the current system is plain ignorance. Voting doesn't make you a slave. Voting and giving up makes you a slave. How about vote and campaign for change instead. Despair does not lead to change.
There are also some great ways to get written off by the Democratic Party. Frequently not voting or voting third party makes for an unreliable constituency. No politician is going to pay a group that plays hard to get much heed. But for a constituency that turns out and works to turn out others, they're going to be all ears. There's a reason causes championed by Black women always feature fairly heavily in the Democratic Party platform. They really punch above their weight.
That breaks down when you consider how long Democrats have been moving to the right in order to appease Republican voters. Republicans aren't known for consistently voting dem.
Vote this election then. And then campaign after the election. What's stopping you from being the change later? Why teach the a lesson now, when the alternative is Drumpf?
I already have. How many times do I have to say that I HAVE ALREADY VOTED FOR HARRIS.
Centrists are great at coming up with excuses for why it's never the time to do what they don't want to do. There will be a new excuse and a new timetable for when it will be acceptable to say anything in opposition to centrists' genocide. When that passes, there will be another date and another excuse.
We just have to do it when we won't inconvenience them with a changing world and they can go on doing exactly what they are. Preferably so quiet they can forget we exist.
Thanks for voting! I didn't see it in your OP, and I dont keep track of what Lemmy users say across posts.
Im not a centerist. However there is a time and a place with everything in life. November 6th I'm ready to start promoting a new voting system and changing whats causing this mess.
Oh for fucks sake. Like an abusive relationship.
“I swear this time it will be different!!”
Who you vote for does not imply who you are in bed with. Unless you like sewing discourse
*sowing
Since I’m not terminally online and I have real conversations with real people in person on this topic, every single person I spoke with regardless of who they were voting for was unhappy with their choices.
I would argue: Look at the what the people doing the genocide want and vote for their most likely opposition.
Its clear The Heritage Foundation, Netanyahu, Putin, Musk, Thiel etc want Trump to win. I would recommend Voting Kamala on those grounds as denying your enemy a win is far better strategic use of voting as a tool than believing the democrats will ever do the right thing.