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Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (20 children)

What is this doing to the housing market?

I am 40 and single. I make 90k a year, I have 130k in total proceeds from the sale of my previous house I owned for 17 years which will go towards the down payment and initial repairs/upgrades with hopefully 10k to savings, and I have very good credit.

I cannot find a house I can afford. If it's less than 350k, it's either a complete disaster on the inside requiring 50k or more to make decent, it's under 1500 sq feet and very claustrophobic inside, it's a cheaply built house in a cookie cutter neighborhood that's already showing it's quality, or it has less than 2 full baths and a 1 car garage. Or the taxes in the area are over 7k a year.

And a LOT of the houses have the same gray vinyl flooring that's as ugly as it is cheap.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I work in the development department of a city that's and enclave for the ultra-rich. Literally every household in the city is millionaires or better.

Every house in the city is unique. Every build site requires civil and structural engineering. Every home has an architect designing it to be a unique structure. The average new build here is 8-10 million dollars, with the big ones being 50 million+.

We're talking tennis pavilions on the roof, indoor arboretums and galleries, the works.

And they're all built cheaply and fall apart within a decade.

They're shitty houses, but when people are dropping 8-figures on them, they can afford to drop a couple million more on a remodel every 5-10 years.

You can't buy a quality house anymore.

[–] Jax 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm starting to think the play is to buy undeveloped land and just bite the bullet on the cost of building a house/a road to the nearest govt maintained road.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unless you're physically building it yourself, it's still gonna get corners cut at every stage.

Also, don't underestimate the drainage and erosion control engineering required for a home and a road. Those cookie cutter neighborhoods have regional drainage and detention. Your undeveloped land won't.

[–] Jax 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure with some research you could find a company willing to follow your specifications and instructions, but obviously that comes with cost.

To your second point, thanks for the heads up. There's plenty more research that I need to do before I worry about drainage, but I'll keep the thought in mind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Septic and Drainage should come before any kind of detailed architecture. It'll save you 30 grand in Engineering revisions if you don't have to re-do the drainage plans.

Also, never let an architect be in charge of a project. It's like having the font designer be in charge of office software.

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