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The irony of Meta/Facebook - infamous for tracking people online - being upset about jet tracking.
Rules and laws are only for the peasantry. Your level of freedom is proportional to your wealth, so Meta has a whole lotta Freedom™️
It's not even tracking... Tracking is what the FAA does, and makes publicly available. These accounts are just publishing the already-public information.
Fuck every one of these shitty billionaires. Fly commercial if you don't want to be tracked publicly.
Obviously the way around this is to make an account that responds to any message containing a plane ID, and another that retweets it.
Tracking those jets isn’t the issue. It’s sharing that information publicly. Facebook doesn’t hand out your personal information to others, and if you think they do, then you don’t understand how targeted ads work.
That information is already public, how do you think he gets it?
My name, address and phone number are public too but if you were to share it on social media you'd be breaking the law.
https://flightradar24.com
All I need is your flight number. You don't know how any of this works, do you?
You don't even need the Internet, just search up ADS-B receivers on Amazon. The plane and the ATC system itself is tattling on you every second, blasting your position out over the air.
Source?
I believe it's prohibited under GDPR as well as many local laws.
I don’t live there.
Do you think there shouldn't be any laws prohibiting the sharing of people's personal information like that?
No, I don't think phone books should be illegal.
Not when it comes to air traffic.
The websites track the planes not the individuals.
The planes might be flying empty. It has nothing to do with GDPR.
Is that question really "in good-faith" to "that law doesn't apply in my country"?
Finnish law doesn’t apply if you aren’t in Finland.
If you put your name, address and phone number on a public forum and someone shares that do you think that's breaking the law? Doxxing generally applies to making personal identifiable information public without that persons consent. Those celebrities are making their own data public, or rather their private jets are because they're required to publicly broadcast their location in real time.
If those accounts are collecting public information they're not doing anything illegal. Otherwise we might as well call libraries illegal because they contain a registry of every book author whose book is in the library.
If they are public, no it is not illegal. If they are not public, but I have them because I provide a service to you, then yes it is illegal (most likely). In this case it is public information, and not even personal information. It is a plane identifier and that plane's location. The only reason that tells you anything about it's passenger is because said passenger is rich and entitled enough to own their own plane and use it for themself. It's like buying the Empire State Building to live there by yourself and then complaining about someone tweeting out your address.
What does that have to do with airplanes ?
Huh? How do you think ad targeting works?
"Show my ad to hornly lonely 13 y/o that suffer from Tourette"
vs
"Here is a list of 13 y/o that suffer from Tourette"
One of these options is less profitable for an ad network in the long run.
Did you all forget about Cambridge Analytica?
It's funny how people who get their news exclusively from their Facebook feeds have never heard of Cambridge Analytica. I can't imagine how that could happen.
It has been over 6 years. I guess a lot of users has been too young to care.
An advertiser contacts Facebook and says, 'We’d like to advertise this product to a specific group of people,' and Facebook says, 'Sure, hand us your money and the ad you'd like us to display,' and then targets that ad to the desired audience. At no point does Facebook hand over user data to the advertiser.
For example, if I want to advertise my home renovation services to all the elderly home owners in my city, then what use would it be for me if they just handed me a list of those people? None. They're the advertising platform. It's them who targets those ads.
Except you can add a tracking pixel to the destination website after people click through on the ad, which correlates to people's individual profile. To say that isn't "handing out personal information to others" is sophistry of the highest order.
They're not handing out personal information. If you hide stuff like that in your ad links then you're the malicious actor, not facebook.
You may want to familiarize yourself with how their tracking pixel works. In brief, you add a line of code (provided by Facebook) to any given website and on page load that code displays a 1x1px transparent image from Facebook's servers that allows them to establish a correlation between the loading of that website and the identity of the person logged in to Facebook on that browser. it isn't "hiding" anything or circumventing Facebook in any way. It's a core part of their advertising offerings. https://www.facebook.com/business/goals/retargeting
It is explicitly stated in the TOS that Meta does indeed hand out your personal information to others.
If you think they don't, read the TOS.
Meta absolutely sells your data. Check out Meta Pixel. A suite you can ad to your website to send and receive said data. Also EU fined them 1.2B for selling data of EU citizens.
You are right the stupid peasants just too stupid to understand big brain things like privacy 🤡