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As the descendant of a survivor of a genocide, the Holocaust, I refuse to be a bystander to another genocide

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[–] MyEdgyAlt 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Careful, per the IHRA definition of antisemitism, when one says:

As the descendant of a survivor of a genocide, the Holocaust, I refuse to be a bystander to another genocide

they might be antisemitic:

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

This is the definition adopted by the United States.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More people should know about the JDA definition of antisemitism, it is much clearer, much more sensible and not as self-contradictory as the deeply flawed IHRA definition: https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/

[–] MyEdgyAlt 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is certainly better, but it’s unclear to me whether this item:

Denying the right of Jews in the State of Israel to exist and flourish, collectively and individually, as Jews, in accordance with the principle of equality.

…implies that denying the legitimacy of the state of Israel is antisemitic. While I would have been in favor of a two state solution in the past, the genocidal mania of the apartheid state has led me to conclude that two states alone is insufficient, even with monetary reparations, and justice after the recent level of atrocity perpetrated by Israel might require granting Palestinians full government control of the land.

Ah! When we go to the questions further down:

Guideline 10 says it is antisemitic to deny the right of Jews in the State of Israel “to exist and flourish, collectively and individually, as Jews”. Isn’t this contradicted by guidelines 12 and 13?

There is no contradiction. The rights mentioned in guideline 10 attach to Jewish inhabitants of the state, whatever its constitution or name. Guidelines 12 and 13 clarify that it is not antisemitic, on the face of it, to propose a different set of political or constitutional arrangements.

Ok, this is a MUCH better definition. Thank you for sharing it.

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