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Our full, year-long investigation: How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on 7 October

[https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hundreds-its-own-people-7-october/49216]


Source: https://x.com/AsaWinstanley/status/1843209079201894757

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[–] Shampiss 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The title is obvious clickbait

Let me start by saying that I don't support the Israeli attacks and ground invasion in Palestine. Moving on

The article's main point is about Israel's "Hannibal directive". This measure allows the harm of Israeli forces to avoid hostages being taken. in practice the sentiment is that "a soldier is better dead than captured". In October 7 the order to take the Hannibal directive was given. There are accounts of soldiers bombing Hamas's forces that were in the process of capturing Israeli soldiers or civilians. Also as a result of the directive, damage was caused in civilian areas killing civilians

While it's clear by the way the article is written that there is a heavy bias against Israel, I believe the claims about the Hannibal directive to be mostly true.

Here's the part where you form your opinion. The act of killing your own people to avoid a capture instinctively sounds terrible. But also consider what it means to be captured and likely tortured for an indeterminate time.

Your opinion might fall between "Israel is the devil itself" or "this is a sad tactic but it's a part of war"

I'm not here to give you my opinion but to ask you to look at all sides. Don't allow yourself to have an opinion before considering both perspectives. Critical thinking and methodical argumentation are severely lacking in society.

My objective here is to go against this sort of angry, fear mongering, nasty articles. I'm so tired of this kind of writing. Please, let's stop enabling this. Lastly I'll just say, stop the war. Take a deal, return the hostages. Holy fuck I'm so tired of this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Here’s the part where you form your opinion. The act of killing your own people to avoid a capture instinctively sounds terrible. But also consider what it means to be captured and likely tortured for an indeterminate time.

“this is a sad tactic but it’s a part of war”

"Friendly Fire" is a term used in military situations, but killing your own people on purpose, I do not see that as being a "sad tactic."

The article explains what happens when Israelis are taken hostage; a hostage exchange happens, which Israel does not want to do; that is why the Hannibal Directive was used on October 7th with civilians. 

Since many were being taken hostage, while we also know how they were being treated by Hamas, the article explains and other interviews show what the hosatges said while being hostages of Hamas.