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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don't run a complaint browser ( cough...firefox )

here is an article in hacker news since i'm sure they can explain this to you better than i.

and also some github docs

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[-] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago

To all the people who didn't see the point in moving away from Chromium browsers, THIS IS THE POINT!

[-] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, sure, it's always the same story:

  1. Chrome adds a shitty anti-user "feature"
  2. Firefox users say "no come to firefox we don't have that!"
  3. 3 months pass
  4. Firefox adds the same "feature" because it's the standard now!!

I'm a Firefox user myself but I really hope something new comes along that actually cares about its users

[-] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago

You're saying this like Firefox is adding the shitty standard because they want to, and not because Google used their monopoly to force adoption of the shitty standard forcing Firefox to follow suit if they don't want their users to have a broken experience.

If Google introduces a shitty standard to YouTube and Firefox doesn't adopt it, do you honestly think users are going to care or understand and blame Google? No, they'll get pissed because they think Firefox broke YouTube and they'll move to Chrome.

This exact situation played out with shadow DOM, Google implemented it into YouTube while it was still a draft standard, so all non-Chrome browsers ran worse because they had to use a polyfill.

That is why we're telling people to stop using Chromium. If they didn't have this monopoly none of this would be possible. Mozilla has some issues as an organization, but do honestly you think the better choice is letting an advertising company decide how the web works?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Mozilla has some issues as an organization

What is that actually?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

What are the issues I have with Mozilla? They're floundering with little direction and seemingly incompetent management.

They laid off a bunch of their key engineers while they continue to increase the CEO's compensation. They keep making half baked decisions with regards to features and marketing that don't seem conducive to their core offering, like the Pocket integration. They completely killed PWA integration, that only works now with an extension and third party software. They retired BrowserID. They orphaned Thunderbird. There's probably more I'm forgetting.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Thanks for explaining. I wasn't updated with all of these. I just use their browser. And thought they are some nice company.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

No for-profit is nice, but they are the lesser shit of the two choices we have. Remember that the Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit, the Mozilla Organization is a non-profit. There is a clear conflict of interest between those two entities.

I do and will continue to use their browser because it's the only choice I have if I want to stand by my principle of supporting a free and open web.

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