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post textPicture this:

  1. You type on Google "laptop won't turn on"
  2. Google now knows you have a broken laptop and can estimate how desperate you are to fix it.
  3. Because it knows how desperate you are, it can increase shop prices proportionally.

You are going to pay the maximum they get you to pay.

That's algorithmic pricing.

The more companies know about you, the more they can predict and sell how desperate you are to other stores out there.

An internet-connected car knows much more about you than you realize. A smart TV also knows what you like. Your Alexa knows if there is a problem in the home.

Privacy is much more than just sensitive data.

It's about not giving leverage away.

Because algorithms will use it against you.

Be safe out there.

Nostr.

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[–] flambonkscious 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for 'coming out' about it. Without doxing yourself too heavily, would you mind to share more about the industry in particular or measurement of these practises? Dip you know if it was common (and when was this?)

I know for sure that we can't trust companies to act in our best interests (if anything, its a hostile relationship), but I guess I'm curious about your inside perspective. Has that jaded you much at all?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Social/Mobile games. So an already predatory industry. Let’s get people addicted to a game, and then suck as much money from them as possible.

In the industry, we definitely weren’t the only ones doing it. And really we were only doing basic stuff (it was all in house developed middleware, so effort vs reward didn’t make much sense to go hard) I wouldn’t be surprised if others were going deep.

  • the hardest part is getting someone to part with their money. But once they’ve done it once, even for the smallest amount, the second purchase will be easier.
  • conversions that stopped playing got emails with discounts.
  • whales got freebies when they lost to keep them happy.
  • everything else was just finding the customers perfect price.
  • ultimately we were selling noting. So any sale is better than no sale. You can’t make a loss on a number in a database.

Everything was broken down into campaigns (we’d have multiple running at any one time) targeting different segments. Then we’d track the conversion, sale, and retention numbers of those campaigns against each other. Sometimes one campaign might flop for one segment but not another, so we’d retarget with a new one.

I don’t think it’s used much in other markets. I know Twilio has Segment, that could be used to do segmented pricing but I’ve never really seen it done in other industries.

I wouldn’t say it’s jaded me. It has made me conscious of my data footprint. I don’t play mobile or f2p games. But I am weary. The COVID greed-flation showed the mindset of businesses. It might not be long until targeted pricing becomes worthwhile to make number go up (still), and hidden under the guise of “lowering prices”.