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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any source on your assertion of 85% of liver transplants not being due to alcohol? May it be because people with livers blown due to alcohol use would be at the bottom of any transplant list?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I originally was reading studies performed in Australia that the U.S. pitched money to help the studies be larger, they took place around 2012, but here is more information from 2020 where you can see that it say "An estimated 10% to 15% of heavy drinkers progress to cirrhosis after decades of heavy alcohol use."

Now cirrhosis isn't the only liver impact that can come from drinking, but my point was that a lot of our "trashing their livers" view is likely because we look down our nose at drunks. Sure they added to it but we aren't refusing heart transplants to 30 year olds because they drank Pepsi, when we know just as well added sugars/corn syrup does nothing but "trash their hearts."

https://news.va.gov/82545/genetic-risk-alcohol-related-cirrhosis-uncovered/

I'll have to find the Australian government article about the 15% being replaced later. I don't keep search history, auto-deletes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nah you're good mate, I take your point. 'Only' 10-15% of problem drinkers go on to develop cirrhosis and not a hundred percent of them will go on to trash their livers. You also make a good point about heart transplants not being denied to the obese for example. Today I learnt.