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[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Now do the j6 insurrectionists.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago

The white ones with white skin and Confederate flags? Oh see, that's...that's different.... because they're wh- ....patriots?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago

Hmm, never thought about it like that. I guess that whole mob could be on the hook for killing Ashley Babbitt. I guess it's a good thing for them there's no federal felony murder rule.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Exactly cops died and yet they all got light sentences. The system is fucked and should be torn down. He is a kid and should be getting help not prison.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

J6 was a crime against the federal government on government property in the District of Columbia.

The feds do have this felony murder law, but it seems to be narrower in scope than many state laws. For instance, the case where law enforcement shoots a perp did happen at the capitol, but it seems like it can't be charged as felony murder under the federal version of the law.

Also, the federal law lists specific crimes only that can be used as underlying felonies, and I suspect that "obstructing an official proceeding" and even "insurrection" are not specifically on that list. Possibly, the feds would have had to charge and convict on simple burglary to apply felony murder.

I don't think any felony murders were actually charged. And a great many J6 defendants were charged with no felonies at all, so they would not be eligible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they steal some things?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Burglary doesn't actually require you to steal anything, but yes they did, and yes the feds probably could charge burglary on some of these defendants.