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AT&T Long Lines "Oak Hill" Tower, San Jose, CA, 2021.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Captured with the Rodenstock 50mm/4.0 HR Digaron-W lens (@ f/4.5) on a Cambo WRS-1600 camera (with about 15mm of vertical shift to preserve the geometry), the Phase One IQ4-150 back (@ ISO 50) in dual exposure mode (which preserves a couple stops of additional dynamic range into the shadows).

The tower's shape is irregular; it tapers slightly.

The wide angle and panoramic orientation give a bit of context, alone on a hill (which is being rapidly encroached by adjacent residential development).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

For much of the 20th century, the backbone of the AT&T "Long Lines" long distance telephone network consisted primarily of terrestrial microwave links (rather than copper or fiber cables). Towers with distinctive KS-15676 "horn" antennas could be seen on hilltops and atop switching center buildings across the US; they were simply part of the American landscape.

Most of the relay towers were simple steel structures. This brutalist concrete platform in San Jose was, I believe, of a unique design.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The San Jose Oak Hill Tower is unique in a number of ways. The concrete brutalist design appears not to have been replicated anywhere else; it seems to have been site-specific. It sits atop an underground switching center (that was partly used for a military contract), which explains the relatively hardened design.

Today the underground switch is still there, owned by AT&T, but the tower space is leased to land mobile and cellular providers. The old horn antennas at top are disconnected.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

With a few exceptions (a few towers atop downtown switching offices in populated areas), no one was trying to make any of this utilitarian communications infrastructure beautiful. It was form strictly following function, built to be reliable and rugged.

But there was, I think, quite a bit of beauty to find in it. I wonder if we'll look at our current neighborhood cellular towers, now often regarded as a visual blight, the same way decades after they're (inevitably) also gone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@[email protected] any idea why they decided to do this strange design? Seems like a lot of overkill: it's not in tornado alley, not in hurricane bowling land, and it doesn't seem like reinforced concrete would be better for earthquakes than the traditional metal tower.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@[email protected] It's a
"hardened" site. It sits atop an underground switch that was part of the DoD's Autovon network.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] It never ceases to amaze me how quickly we built and abandoned huge, wonder-of-the-world-scale infrastructure projects. We pulled twisted pairs of copper wire to the large majority of structures in the United States!

And then almost entirely walked away from it

look on my works, ye mighty, and despair

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@[email protected] Aren't microwave networks still used for High Frequency Trading? I know that these are not the same as the AT&T microwave network, rather they are relatively new facilities purpose built for HFT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] Yes, high frequency trading is in a unique space- they don't care much about bandwidth (compared with a telecom network), but they care a lot about latency. Microwave has a faster velocity factor than fiber, so a lot of the trading firms have their own microwave links. Generally shorter distances (a few hops at most), though I believe there's a network of relays between Jersey City and Chicago (mostly using old AT&T sites with newer equipment).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] Very eastern european design. The TV towers in the East are all big chunks of concrete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@[email protected] Many years ago there was, I guess, some kind of microwave link atop a hill above San Rafael (Marin County, north of San Francisco). It wasn’t a concrete tower like this but was some kind of metal frame supporting four horn antennas pointing in the four cardinal directions. From a distance it looked like a conference table surrounded by four chairs. I’ve looked for a picture in vain. I think it’s gone now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@mattblaze Oh wait they might be visible on Google Maps satellite view if you zoom in all the way. It looks like the four horns are still there but not pointing in cardinal directions.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZvZb7URSSDQNW3QU9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@stuartmarks Yep. That's a pretty typical installation, once commonplace across the country. The only reason any survive is that the horns are so bulky and heavy that removing them is often expensive and dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] They had to remove the horns from the microwave tower in the centre of London because they'd become dangerous, doesn't look quite the same now https://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=1424&pageid=1000

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

@[email protected] Looks weirdly ominous...