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[–] [email protected] 124 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Until I joined Lemmy I had no idea how militant vegans could be. I sorta just assumed they were a different brand of vegetarian.

I'm not opposed to their ideaology in any way, but after reading the comments on a few posts that found their way into my feed... I had to block their communities. It didn't seem likely that I'd be reading any productive discourse there.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago (31 children)

I was vegan for 8 years and during that time I didn't talk to anyone about it other than to say, "I don't eat that."

I say that to say this - vegans are insufferable and a large reason why I quit the community and went back to omnivore. Even after 8 years, other vegans were still 'more vegan' and would nitpick the dumbest stuff.

"Bro, did you eat a date? That killed a bee or something. Not cool."

Shut up with that. Let me eat my damn fruit.

I was healthier though. But, to be fair, I was younger.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Bro, did you eat a date? That killed a bee or something. Not cool.”

I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Now it reminded me of Vladimir Sorokin's "Horse soup". Time to read it again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Vladimir Sorokin’s “Horse soup”

https://www.bookrags.com/studyguide-horse-soup/#gsc.tab=0

(Reads blurb. What the actual fuck.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'm a level 2 proto-vegan, though it's functionally equivalent to a level 8 in normal terms I think.

Anyway, our food is cultivated in an open source orchard (the genomes are all fully sequenced) using plea bargains with the surrounding woodland, where we encourage feral animals to aerate and urinate on the soil and we sensually assist in the procreation of the plant reproduction taking a 1%-5% crop yield over what the flies do not touch.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know what, it's so much easier to say you're an omnivore and end up eating meat once a year than to say you are a vegan who makes an exception about once a year. The first label would earn you a "wait so you're basically vegan?!" vs "you're not vegan then and you're a dirty cheater".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

exactly. you choose your labels to best express your positions.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Between them and Linux evangelicals, this place can be pretty annoying at times.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Spoken like a meat eating windows user

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Windows eating meat user

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Do you think that's an insult?

[–] AlligatorBlizzard 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

meat eating windows user (derogatory)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Can I get this on a name tag?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

No. If he wanted to insult you, he'd call you a MacOS User /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Oh you must also be a reddit uaer... Here you go: /s

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as vegan, is in fact, GNU/vegan, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus vegan.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

Linux evangelicals

We just want to save your code from eternal damnation

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I've just discovered a new game: start posting how you love windows, meat and Elon, place bets who will attack you first

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

My money would be on Elon. Windows users and carnivores are quite common here, but hatred of The Musk is near universal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was honestly more fun to irk the "grammer" police on reddit using misspellings and improper vocabulary.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

to irk the “grammer” police on reddit

Hmm...

*Squints*

You done messed up.

to irk the “grammer” police on Reddit

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I see, I still giggle when I do it, on Lemmy to!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Don't forget to support capitalism as well!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I use arch btw

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Exactly my experience. I often heard stories of vegans being like that, but I never ever saw it so I thought it was just made up to belittle vegans.

Then I joined lemmy and found out that I'm apparently in favour of massacres, slavery and rape because I consume meat/milk/eggs from time to time.

I imagine the vast majority of vegans just go about their lives and resprectfully discuss the ethics of animal consumption when the topic comes up, but these loud militant members really make vegans look bad and they sure as hell make it so that even less people consider going vegan

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Yes, them calling me a rapist totally made we want to be like them and adopt their ideology.

Their strain of it appears to be poison religion like fundamentalist Christianity or Islam. A fanatic is a fanatic, whatever paint they're dipped in. Guess they're just trying to fill a hole in themselves.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

any movement will have more or less militant members. that's life.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

I stick with Margaret Cho’s advice on vegans from her Assassin tour back in 2005:

And especially, especially, don't fuck with vegans. Do not look vegans in the eye. If you get into an argument with a vegan, say "I'm wrong" and run away as fast as you can. Do not fuck with vegans because they will fuck you up...BECAUSE THEY'RE HUNGRY.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

the vast majority of vegans are not represented by a tiny segment that has found lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If Lemmy had its version of r/atheist users, they're either vegan, Linux obsessed, or politics obsessed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hey. Do you have time to talk about our lord and saviour, Linus Torvalds?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah, I love Linus Tech Tips, it's one of my favorite YouTubes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Savior? Do you mean Terry Davis, AKA King Terry the Terrible?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It would have to be the Linux crowd, just by force of numbers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Vegans being annoying was a thing awhile ago, but they really chilled out. This is a smaller band of die-hards.

"Chilling out" is of course a terrible metric when animal abuse is on the line but being good to animals would make you vegetarian, not vegan, and yet that was never where the righteousness was coming from.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Quite a bit of their content is antagonizing and alienating. What a shame.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

‘Plant based’ was a rebrand of veganism because of what vegans did to veganism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I like how they expect everyone to share there ethical views. Fun fact: most people don't.