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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

the NFT is not the art itself, it is at best a proof of ownership.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not even that.

There is a huge lack of insight into who owns the copyright of an NFT. This confusion likely stems from the fact that an NFT comprises two things: (i) the identifiable, non-fungible, non-replicable, and transferrable cryptographic asset recorded on the blockchain, and (ii) the creative content. The creative content is separate and distinct from the actual asset recorded on the blockchain. As such, the person or entity that created the creative content owns the copyright. The content creator continues to own the copyright, even if the NFT is sold to someone else. It’s analogous to Jeff Koons selling artwork he created—Koons can sell the art to one person to hang on their wall, but since Jeff also owns the copyright, he can sell that same artwork as an image on t-shirts.

https://bpp.msu.edu/magazine/nfts-what-you-need-to-know-to-protect-copyrights-june2022/

NFTs are literally just URLs, pointlessly stored on "the blockchain". URLs that point to servers which can be switched off at any moment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

wait, what are you even buying then?!

I thought (i) at least served as a proof of ownership for (ii)...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nope.

This is why anyone not huffing paint has stayed far away from NFTs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, the "non-fungibility" simply means that anyone who creates an NFT with the same link will be distinct from your link to the image, even if the actual URL is the same. Both NFTs can also be traced back to when they were created/minted because they're on a blockchain, a property called provenance. If the authentic tokens came from a well known minting, you can establish that your token is "authentic" and the copy token is a recreation, even if the actual link (or other content) is completely identical.

Nothing about having the "authentic" token would give you actual legal rights though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

yeah, I understand the tech far better than I understand the law. I thought they legally counted as a contract, i guess they're not even that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For a contract transferring property, you need 2 parties: One offering and the other accepting. Having knowledge of a cryptographic key implies none of that.

You could get something like this done by transferring the asset to a reputable trustee. The trustee - a law firm, bank, or such - checks that the paperwork is in order and it has the necessary rights. It binds itself contractually to convey some benefit - eg a revocable copyright license - to whoever can show that they have a certain cryptographic key/control of a wallet.

The firm should regularly check if the beneficiary still holds the key. It might get lost or forgotten, after all. The possibility of losing access to the asset by theft or accident is the only thing that involving NFTs add to such a scheme, so one might as well lean into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Be a shame if I traded my stupid collection of URLs around and eventually bought them back only to lose the key, better get insurance in case I forget it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

At best you're buying into a collective agreement of ownership among those also participating in the NFT ecosystem. You own a thing because a large enough group of people agree you own it and respect the authority of that token.

At worst you've been scammed and are trying to convince yourself the above is true and that said "large enough group" includes anyone at all capable of enforcing said ownership. Spoilers: it does not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

NFTs are great for replacing things like deeds or vehicle titles, where we need paperwork to verify ownership. But the problem arises when it's cryptographically hard (meaning exceedingly unlikely on reasonable timescales) to reverse fraudulent transfers of those documents. Cutting out a centralized authority at the price of making the system more vulnerable for gullible people is almost always not worth it.