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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (11 children)

There is no secret third option. One of the two will win. You will, in fact, lose your leverage when Mr. Dictator Day One replaces the entire federal staff with Federalist Society cronies and the guys urging to deport protestors have control over the House and Senate.

Of course, you love all the genocide and want that to go faster in Gaza, faster in Ukraine, faster domestically.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

I admit my comment might not have been the clearest but I do feel like you're talking past my point.

To reiterate: If you decide to 'vote blue no matter who' you are granting the DNC your vote, which at the moment is one of the few points of leverage you have to get them to change policy positions, for nothing. But I admit, maybe getting them to change policy positions isn't your aim. I don't know for sure.

It is my aim, and the aim of the uncommitted movement and Palestinian liberation groups in the country as a whole. Using that leverage, by telling the DNC we will not simply grant them our vote unless they put forward policy positions which we favor, is good politics. It has little to do with whether Trump wants to do away with elections and declare himself God Emperor. You can still vote for the democrats come November, but refusing to use said leverage and/or running cover for the DNC by asking that criticisms are withheld until after the election is at best poor strategy or shows that you don't care about the policy changing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Your comment was clear. You are on a high horse and privileged enough that you don't think another Donald admin will harm you. You want to smugly tell everyone who doesn't share your exact viewpoint that they support genocide.

You can tell the Dems whatever you want, uncommitted, fine, I don't give a shit. I hope it works, what is happening over there is despicable.

However, when it comes down to it, you either are opposed to increasing genocide and will vote against Donald in November. Or you are a genocide lover and will assist him taking over, filling every federal position with a crony, and ending even FPTP as a method for change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@barsquid That sums up my feeling about this kind of rightwing talking point too. It almost never comes from an honest place. So I learned from reddit, and just mute the shills. To the tune of AC/DC...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

'rightwing talking point' yeah cause the right winger is me calling for an arms embargo and an end to the occupation of Palestine by Israel - famed left-wing progressive country... get real

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@Kagu I'm not here for reddit style pissing matches. Not sorry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Are you here to discuss the topic, then? Or just to leave snarky one-liners? Cause all you've done so far is 1) implied I'm a rightwinger and 2) told me im having a pissing match while discussing genocide. You've not... replied to any points I've made nor seemingly even considered them. I'm not here to pretend I can change your mind, but you're certainly not contributing much to the topic at hand

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