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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (56 children)

I think calling everyone a fascist would just water down the impact of the fascist world just like the far right- or far left-wing words which nowadays are just used on more left/right parties but are kinda not close on their agenda like the 20th century parties were where these definitons came from.

But educate me if some of these countries have parties which really apply most general aspects of the fascism movement

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Wanting to ban mosques, the quran and muslim clothing like niqabs sounds pretty fascist to me (that’s what the biggest political party in The Netherlands wants). Thinking the European far right (that is rapidly gaining grounds) isn’t fascist or fascist leaning is a wild take.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Unfortunately most leftist parties in Europe suffer from the paradox of tolerance. And rightists are hypocritical in opposing Islam but supporting Christianity. There's nobody anti-islamic who's not a fascist, which is ironic since in some ways they are quite similar, and both are harmful to humanity.

(And to make it clear before you accuse me of being fascist, I oppose the currently dominant version of Islam which is not separable from politics, and which insists on actual belief in god and quran. Once it becomes a weakly held cultural category like Christianity in most of Europe I'll be fine with it)

[–] HenriVolney 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"There's nobody anti-islamic who's not a fascis"

I'm sorry but you can be violently anti-religion without being a fascist. Considering religions for what they are - a way to dominate the people by fear anddesinformation - does not mean that you are going to prevent people from practicing their religion. You are just making damn sure they don't advocate them in public schools, hospitals and administrations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m sorry but you can be violently anti-religion without being a fascist.

Yes, that was exactly my point. I'm complaining that in the current political scene there are no parties that separate those ideas.
And yes, banning the public display will only make it go underground and become stronger, this is why it's so important to separate anti-religion from fascism.

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