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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Can anyone tell me how a cafe would normally make a long black?

Single or double shot of espresso?

How much water to add?

Online I found things that say a single or double shot plus 100ml of water, but this seems way too much. A standard long black cup may only hold 100ml total? Do I do a double shot with 40ml water added?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

A real cafe gives you black coffee and a slap in the face while screaming "enjoy it!" at you.

But seriously good cafes, will give you a double shot espresso with a jug of hot water ~100ml, so that you can add to your preferred level.

I am a terrible coffee snob, I drink my coffee black! Usually just espresso but if I'm adding water it is only 20-40ml in a double shot. I find that most cafes are not that good at making black coffee, they get away with it because people mask the flavour with milk etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I've definitely been served hit water with the coffee but most places have this cup that is the same everywhere, and has a much smaller volume.

I'm still getting the feel for making my own espresso and so was thinking if I knew how a cafe makes it then I'd have a good benchmark, especially for getting the espresso shot the right strength.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just don't over express your coffee, it will turn into bitter crap.

err on the side of a smaller amount of water

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Haha I feel like I might be under-expressing! Just seems like a tiny amount in the cup. It has a nice crema on it though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Increase bit by bit, you'll know when it has gone to far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You greatly overestimate my ability 😆

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This process has to happen over many coffees

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I'll do my best!

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