this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2024
265 points (97.5% liked)

Fire Memes for Traitor Haters

280 readers
161 users here now

Where we meme (joking in tone and detail, serious in sentiment) about General Sherman, the Civil War, and how the secesh traitors had it coming.

RULES

  1. No bigotry. The Union, or at least the part of the Union WE support, fought AGAINST that shite. We are anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, and in general anti-bigot here, even if not all the lads in Union blue uniforms were.

  2. No Confederate sympathizing. Anti-democratic racist slaver traitors don't deserve shit.

  3. Follow all Lemmy.world rules

founded 4 months ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think the easiest solution, if the person you're talking to is not a conservative and is just the embodiment of the adage "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing", is to point out that before, during, and immediately after the Civil War, the Democrats were the conservative party, and the Republicans were liberal - to the point of radicalism, even. The Republican Party of the 1850s and 60s was a VERY big tent consisting of just about everyone who opposed slavery - from ultra-wealthy industrialists to LITERAL Marxists. But nowadays, the Republican party quite openly advertises itself as conservative.

The people have the same agenda - or at least similar ones. Only party preference has changed.

Otherwise you could point to the Southern Strategy leading the GOP to court racist conservatives, the same demographic who caused the Civil War; or that almost all major civil rights legislation post-Grant have been under Democrat administrations. Brown vs. Board of Ed was during Eisenhower's term, but Ike:

A. Was asked to run by both parties

B. Disdained the conservative wing of the GOP

and

C. Was done by the Supreme Court, which Eisenhower had no (immediate or direct) say in.