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No I heard your sentence and called it stupid and I still can't believe you are going with it because it is laughable. Go on, explain how you are nicer to animals more than vegans are to you. You are still alive so we haven't eaten you yet... Do you kill and eat people you care about?
You said you are taking 'abuse' from vegans in the same comment you said you see nothing wrong with killing and eating someone. I can't take your victim point seriously when you refuse to acknowledge the feelings of your victims.
As your your gay friends thing, its a false equivalence despite what the words are. Gay people don't have victims. Nonvegans do. I'm defining "bad thing" as an action that harms others. Being gay is also not a choice and is nothing like being nonvegan. You aren't a fucking minority for being nonvegan. What a dumbass insulting argument.
Wait. I thought you said you weren't smug?
Already did. And I didn't say "vegans are to me" I said "vegans are to non-vegans".
Is that the only moral in your world? DO what thou wilt as long as you don't eat animals? My usual critique is that vegans have this over-simplified 2d understanding of ethics and the environment. So it kinda fits.
Is animal personhood a requirement for someone to be said to have empathy towards animals? Or are you just getting a little bit unhinged with cannibalism talk? You are allowed to walk away you know.
As far as I can tell, you don't seem to be taking anything non-vegan seriously. You've kinda proven the entire discussion and we can both move on.
Funny thing, that's what they'd say. Bodies are temples, Jesus' consent, yada yada yada.
Bit of a simplified definition, if I do say myself. As a utilitarian, I'd like to point out the spiderweb in any ethical decision as everything can harm others in some way.
Your only options are that I turn vegan or I'm inferior to you. You REALLY don't like educated interlocutors, do you?
say something very stupid
call any argument against it smug
We are both being smug right now because this argument is stupid.
You did a poor job explaining then. You made up that statement. I'm asking how you can be empathetic to someone you murder and eat. Why would that be my only moral issue?
Oh you didn't like when I referred to animals as 'someone'. Yeah so much empathy.
Never called you inferior, captain strawman. Stop making shit up. And your rebuttal to the religious thing didn't make any sense. How was that at all equivalent, or have to do with what I said?
Gay people don't make a choice, you do. And to relate them to your choice to harm others is insulting to their struggle. So gfy with this point