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This is great lol. When my friend tried Linux Mint he had to go into the terminal to install Brave, as they don't just provide a .DEB like other browsers do. Maybe I should recommend Fedora to him as well.
Brave 🤮
i find the fall from grace amusing. i've been hating on them for years just because they're a chrome derivative. now they do some telemetry and all of a sudden everyone hates them.
What’s wrong with it?
I use Vivaldi (and Firefox if a site doesn't work in Vivaldi) which is part of that "other browsers" bracket so I'm good lol.
not open source and based on chrome
why not just use firefox for everything?
Because I need tab organisation to stop my arse from overflowing with tabs and getting overwhelmed, which Vivaldi does nicely with workspaces and Firefox can't really do at all.
I looked it up and while Firefox has most of the tab features Vivaldi does (tab pinning, tab duplication, moving tabs, muting tabs) it doesn't have tab stacking, which was novel to me
there are a couple firefox addons that more or less replicate this feature in different forms from some brief research
for example tree style tabs is a popular addon
i also found tab stack and simple tab groups although they do not look as streamlined as vivaldi
regardless, thanks for the info. i'm going to try out tree style tabs because it seems like a useful feature for me too that i hadn't considered before
No prob! I did use Tree Style Tabs and that helped a bit but Vivaldi's extra features and how streamlined it is just edge it out as better than Firefox + addons for me. There's also tab workspaces for grouping tabs into screens, typically on what type of browsing you're doing, and tab tiling which Firefox was able to do back in its XUL days but can't do in Quantum. I think Firefox would be pretty neat with a power-user oriented fork to bring back some missing features.
My only issue with Vivaldi is, if a site is still providing insecure HTTP for whatever reason (7digital for some reason still provides purchase downloads this way) then Vivaldi silently fails. Firefox clearly warns the user, so that's my reason for having Firefox on hand - for those stragglers.
You can find the flatpak version of Brave in the Mint software center. Many package maintainers don't allocate space for multiple web browser forks because they take a very long time to compile and update frequently (or have nonfree components like Vivaldi) so flatpaks are your best option.
I knew Fedora had Flatpak baked in but didn't know Linux Mint had it. I know they've got a hatred for Snaps, though lol. Thanks for the explanation!