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[–] [email protected] 139 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (26 children)

So let’s recap

Biden BOMBED the debate

NYT printed a bunch of stories (like, more than they have and more frequently than on any other single topic for years including the insurrection) about how this was an objective disaster for Biden and there was no possible way he could win now

Polls came out, showing anywhere from 0 to 2 points of loss of support even after an absolutely historic fuckup

Polls investigating why that is, for some reason, are kind of hard to find, our media preferring to run weird slanted polls where they ask more or less “Why did Biden fuck up so bad and do you really want to continue to support him now?”. But the few of them that can be found investigating the more data driven issue report voters saying, more or less, that sure Biden is old but his opponent is an angry malicious liar who is an objective catastrophe for the country and that’s more important to me

So then after all that, the NYT runs a story today saying here’s what the Democrats don’t understand, the voters are influenced by style, not substance. If the Democrats want to stop being wrong about everything and losing they need to understand that.

Do I have my summary correct?

[–] Zipitydew 48 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not to mention fucking CNN now run by Trump supporters has been doing the same.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Really? CNN and USA Today, of all papers, seemed to me like they’d been doing this weirdly high level of actual journalism recently. Was CNN doing all fuck-Biden all the time in the same way and I just didn’t notice?

[–] Zipitydew 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

CNN flipped owners in 2022 and has been shifting. That's why so many people were telling Biden not to agree to CNN hosted debates. It was literally a trap. Even if he had done well they would have ignored it and talked about something else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Moderator straight up told Trump he could ignore the questions and spout whatever horseshit he felt like.

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