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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

*please note i deeply value and respect the vegan movement. i am just critical of how humorously it precipitates in online spaces, particularly this one. :)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Imagine being proud about a diet that's destroying the planet. Even petrol companies pretend not to be ass holes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Meh, I wouldn’t say proud. I’m just not going to change it. If you don’t want to eat meat, don’t.

I’ve got solar panels, I ride a bicycle, don’t fly, don’t have a car, I recycle everything properly, I conserve water, and generally try to consume less whenever possible.

Is meat bad for the planet? Sure. But by and large, I don’t think me eating meat three times a week is going to have much effect. I’m much more concerned about people elsewhere on the planet discovering the joy of meat, like growing consumption in China.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You did say "I love meat, let me assure you". That's pretty proud.

Firstly, other moral goods don't rebuff moral wrongs. Owning solar panels doesn't mean it's morally okay to kill animals for your tastebuds.

"I don't think me eating less meat will have much effect". I mean, if everyone thought like you, global warming might happen. If everyone thought like vegans, (and went vegan today) we'd literally solve the climate crisis. Animal agriculture accounts for 40-60% of total emissions.

How can you be concerned about growing meat consumption in other countries? "Gee I sure hope people don't act like me, that'd be concerning!". Rules for thee.

That's not to mention the antibiotic crisis where treatment resistant bacteria are developing in animals due to overuse in livestock. Or the development of animal flus like birdflu, corona virus, swine flu, ebola etc etc, which emerge from consuming animals.

You're doing so much good, why not do the little extra step of going vegan? It's so easy nowadays. Good for you, good for the planet, good for the animals. There's no practical downside?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

There’s no practical downside?

inconvenience, social ostracization, and aesthetic deprivation are actual downsides. further you don't actually know what is good for them: you're not their doctor. finally, it would be better for the animals if it shrunk industry. the industry grows every year, so it is not any better for the animals.

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