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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (22 children)

i support the message, but if this is true why is the dem party hell bent on keeping the candidate who isn't actually engaging his base enough to make them want to go out and vote? If biden wins, I'll be surprised. Happy, of course, but surprised nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The wealthy donate to both parties

If Dems ran a candidate voters want. They'd get majorities in both houses, not long till super majorities.

And then there's no excuse not to do what voters want.

Moderate Dems want to win, but only by so much they're not able to do anything in office.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was looking for this comment so I didn't have to type it out. It's never about winning for Democrats because then they'd have to actually do what they said they would. It's much more convenient to have the Republicans blocking everything they do while they're in power so they can then demonize them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They bet on themselves to win, but not cover the spread...

I don't know why people don't see it after 2020.

Biden promised to pass the platform thru a R Senate, that was the entire reason he gave for being the nominee, working with republicans . Then the GA runoffs came up and we might get 50.

So he said with 50 D senators, he could pass the party platform. Which wasnt what he just said, but the whole country still got behind it and we got 50 D senators.

Then like a week into office, he flat out said anyone who thought 50 D senators was enough to do anything was naive and didn't know what they're talking about. Then he even said that trying to change a senators mind was a waste of time so he wouldn't bother trying...

And here we are, four years later, acting like we dont know why Biden is unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

And Obama was the same way. Ran on big structural change (although somewhat vapid in content), then the first thing he does is bail out the banks with taxpayer money. Then spends 8 years complaining about McConnell. His major achievement was passing a minor healthcare package that basically became a Republican talking point.

It's honestly a well-oiled machine, and it has been since Truman.

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