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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Let's Stop Arguing About An Imaginary Energy Transition | Art Berman (www.artberman.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the pointed pessimism about, in reality, the philosophy of whether technology can save our current way of life.

I agree that energy reduction is job 1. Not solely us individuals, primarily the big industries. It's good that we're using electric arc furnaces to smelt steel for example, no more of those tremendous vats of molten metal ala terminator 2. The output is a lot purer too.

We're getting better at doing more with less.

Is collapse inevitable? Maybe. But I agree with Mr Berman here, we need to be honest with each other.