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  • Microsoft removes guide on converting Microsoft accounts to Local, pushing for Microsoft sign-ins.
  • Instructions once available, now missing - likely due to company's preference for Microsoft accounts.
  • People may resist switching to Microsoft accounts for privacy reasons, despite company's stance.
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[–] [email protected] 154 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (25 children)

What's crazy is the cybersecurity teams at big corporations actually hate this because its putting half their security in Microsofts hands. (And their security has been abysmal for a hot minute or more)

Corporations hate this shit too because they want to be using their internal, domain-controlled users, not Microsoft accounts that pass a ton of trade secrets to Microsoft. Is Microsoft training its AI on your trade secrets? Who knows!

So Microsoft is literally killing core competencies not just for end-users, but for businesses, too.

This will convince a lot of businesses the switch to an all Linux internal domain to be worth it, imho.

[–] mark3748 76 points 5 months ago (16 children)

What’s even crazier is that corporate customers don’t actually deal with this in any way! There’s no Microsoft account required on an Active Directory controlled PC.

Source: I am big corporate IT. Oh, and my personal AD deployment, outside of work

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (15 children)

How are you accomplishing this? Provisioning the PCs to be part of the domain with a Powershell install script during automated setup? Because I was under the impression that this also had become a difficult task with 11. Because a Windows 11 machine doesn't know it's going to be part of the domain until it has been added to the domain. So, the only way I can see that working is like Powershell combined with WDS or something.

Source: Am small IT

EDIT: Also, the LTSC version of Windows 11 isn't coming until later in 2024. So I'm very curious how this works with 11 specifically.

[–] mark3748 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Windows 11 Enterprise likely uses a different OOBE, I just tell it to join during setup. At work, everything is image-based and pre-configured so no standard OOBE.

Like most things at MS, those with the resources get everything they want while the little guy gets screwed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

*smacks forehead

Ah yes, I forgot about the existence of Entrprise edition. I've just never dealt with a business that paid for such a thing, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yup, you can DL enterprise Win11 for free to, just gotta know how to grab it from MS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

just gotta know how to grab it from MS.

Be a kind soul and share, please and thank you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Shit, I was just looking at massgrave the other day, didn't realize they had direct links. Thanks a bunch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Haha, I work for one of Microsoft’s biggest customers and they still treat us like shit. Trust me they don’t do favors for anybody. They honestly do not care.

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