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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

anyone who supports trump was never a libertarian

[–] mindbleach 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Y'all know tankies, right? Alleged leftists who are actually ingroup loyalists for an ingroup vaguely related to leftism. People for whom socialism and communism and anarchism or whatever are interchangeable signifiers of an identity. They're faking it for basic human tribalism.

Libertarians are 95% tribalists. They'll loudly agree with grandstanding philosophical pronouncements, and shout economic slogans at the outgroup, but in practice they're basically just Republicans, and Republicans don't have anything left besides being a Republican. They called Newt Gingrich's healthcare plan a communist plot when a Democrat did it.

The convention invited a bigoted fascist who repeatedly attempted to end American democracy - and this article notes they still want him to win. As if 'extracting promises' about some niche obsession will make up for the American right's assault on American rights. This is the party working to ban abortion, and contraception, and being trans. People: is anything in the world more important than your precious fucking taxes?

[–] HANN 1 points 7 months ago

I think it's important to recognize that the party, as the interview pointed out, is very divided. Do the individuals that you describe exist in the party? Yes. Are they the majority? No. Hence why the libertarian presidential nominee is so contested.

This is the party working to ban abortion, and contraception, and being trans.

I suggest you look up Chase Oliver. The Mises Caucus is not representative of the whole party and even many members in the Caucus are not the way you describe.