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anti-snap stance is anti-consumer (lemdro.id)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The title is a quote from Mastodon. I’ve always seen dislike towards snap so I was taken back when I saw this stance. The person who wrote this was referring to Tuxedo Laptops.

What are your thoughts on this?

EDIT:

Here’s the original comment: https://mastodon.social/@popey/112591863166141029

EDIT 2:

Some clarification for those accusing me of not following the thread or being disingenuous.

Didn't bother to follow the thread?

https://mastodon.social/@popey/112593520847827981

I posted my question here before this particular response from the OP. I asked the question on Lemmy out of interest and wanting to get a wider perspective. I also engaged with the OP on the thread so that I can get their perspective on their stance.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I think a lot of the flak directed towards snap would be mitigated if they made the backend open source. I know there are some efforts to produce alternative backends (although the one I knew about lol / lol-server seems to have gone dark).

Another issue is Canonical's rather strong armed and forceful approach to making people use snaps rather than the OSs native packaging system, again, not something that should be an issue in theory but when people already have a negative view of the format to start with...

Personally I don't really have an issue with Snaps. I've had more luck with them and fewer issues than Flatpaks (which I also tend to avoid like the plague) but that is probably just because I prefer to use appimages or native packages rather than having to fight the sandbox permissions and weird things it can do to apps that don't take Snaps and Flatpaks properly into account.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Yeah I wouldn't hate snaps if it wasn't for canonical saying they wouldn't force them on people, then making apt install snaps instead of .debs without the user asking for it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They won't open source snaps because they want to control the snap ecosystem to make money off of it for an IPO

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wonder if it probably wouldn't (or at least wouldn't have) done any harm to do so seeing as if you look at Flatpak, its most obvious comparison, although it can have multiple remotes, Flathub is the only one that is realistically used and is the de-facto standard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The more snaps you have, the slower your machine will boot. It's uniquely shit technology that should die already.