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Woman from Riposte Alimentaire arrested after sticking poster on impressionist painter’s Coquelicots

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if these have any sort of effect. I've only ever heard people outraged about it and people thinking the ones doing this are idiots. Doesn't mean it doesn't have any other effect of course

[–] VirtualOdour 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Studies seem to show they make everything worse for the cause; politicians distance themselves from causes, public make emotional associations which are hard to break, etc.

Certainly the affect in conversation is obvious, people see attacks on art or blocking roads, etc as anti-social behavior and this locks their brain into thinking of them as a socially destructive force which of course taints their thinking of the cause.

I've attended lectures on it at climate protest events, how those tactics can be useful for situations no one is talking about but harmful to well known things - but there were very few people interested, the reality is hard work and learning isn't fun. Playing hero and living in a self agrandizing fantasy however is fun, especially when you can use it to boost your socials, justify immorality, and all the other things people use religion or extreme politics for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I wonder if it's later going to be found that these people are the useful idiots of big oil producers trying to undermine the cause on public opinion on purpose.

[–] dukepontus 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What studies? Otherwise your just making up stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I regret to inform you there are hundreds of studies with titles like "Climate Protests: How public opinion is shaped by climate change activists". A lot of them agree with this guy in their abstract. A quick search and skim to check on this took me about 12 minutes.

[–] dukepontus -2 points 5 months ago

At least you regret it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The sad thing is that an organization like PETA or Greenpeace started out just fine and with good intentions. Eventually the psychos made it to the top and edged out the reasonable people. Now you have people on reddit saying how they hate vegans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's PETA's fault, it's the fault of the redditors' own cognitive dissonance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I’m a fully hippie animal lover vegetarian and I think they are nuts. Yes the reddit fools are idiots but they also saw things like throwing red paint at people.