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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I doubt this has to do with "powerful people". A DDOS attack does not remove anything from the net, but only makes it temporarily hard to reach.

There are firms that specialize in suppressing information on the net. They use SEO tricks to get sites down-ranked, as well as (potentially fraudulent) copyright and GDPR request.

There must be any number of "little guys" who hate the Internet Archive. They scrape copyrighted stuff and personal data "without consent" and even disregard robots.txt. Lemmy is full of people who think that people should go to jail for that sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Lots of grand conspiracy theories in this thread when, in the end, it's probably some bored script kiddy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I doubt it. I'd sooner think it's a corporation or state actor.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How does taking the website down for a few hours help those people? Especially a state actor? If it was the US government or someone like them wouldn't they do something more permanent? Actually wipe the website?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some news source released something that got redacted based on government pressure. Archive made a snapshot of the news source. Now the state actor goes after the Archive to prevent time sensitive information from spreading. They benefit from the information not being widely available immediately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh....so what got released today?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How would I know? The news source retracted their statement and archive.org is down...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Up for me. It was down a few hours tops. And I remember checking it around the time you made that post as well?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Israel attacking Palestine again possibly

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What does knocking the website offline for a few hours do for their war?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

OwN tEh LiBs !!!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Who knows, how in The world would I know

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

err....it was your suggestion?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I offered a plausible explanation never did I suggest it was THE reason. Near zero chance we will ever know

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I just don't see how its plausible Israel wanted a website to go down for 2 hours to help them bomb Palestine

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Who knows, could be anyone for any reason

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Aliens or illuminati, for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is it still something you can do to big sites the way people did back in the 2000's?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yep but usually the worst case scenario is a few hours of downtime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh that's true. I've seen a lot of cancel/call-out documents archived on IA, some of which were directed at children or had false accusations on them. It would be funny but not that surprising if all of this was over obscure Twitter drama.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

That's one of the problems with archiving everything. I lean in favor of the IA, but there are still issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on the last part?

TBH I can understand that it's a problem for people who aren't expecting it. If they disregard instructions not to index things then that's also a problem. The only real way to prevent scrapers from replicating content is to place it behind a registration wall.