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Fixed that for you.
First, the signally protocol used for all non-Tesla cars at superchargers CCS, which is already an open standard. Tesla cars made after 2022 can also talk CCS to all non-Tesla chargers (with a cheap retrofit for many pre-2022 Tesla cars).
Second, the NACS physical connector is going through SAE standardiztion right now as we speak and that is expected to be complete about the end of the year. If you like you can already start calling it the open standard SAE J3400.
Yeah, they’ll be beholden to Tesla in order to use Superchargers, just like they’re beholden to Electrify America to use their chargers, but the connector and its underlying technology are open. If Tesla decides to switch all their superchargers to some new future non-NACS connector, that would be stupid, but the other companies still wouldn’t be beholden to them, they just wouldn’t be able to use those chargers
I'm not following what you're trying to say. That use of "beholden" usually means "trapped" or "obligated". If most of North America is using NACS chargers (Tesla and other brands too), then where is the trap? A consumer can simply use another brand of charger is a NACS connector (of which there will be many brands). With the open standards its not like there is a lock on who can make a charger or where that charger can be placed. If anything, most Tesla chargers are not on the best real estate.
What is your concern with all EV companies in North America using NACS once it is ratified by the SAE as a true open standard?
Sorry, I was agreeing with you, just poorly haha.
Really what I meant is like “if you want to use superchargers, regardless of connector, Tesla has to let you. But cars/chargers switching to NACS doesn’t mean that if Tesla changes their connector your car stops working”
I’m totally in favor of the change (and I love that SAE is getting involved, since that makes it feel a bit more real)
No worries! I'm the first to say I have trouble with the same.
Hasn't this always been the plan for Tesla? Being the infrastructure and battery technology, to make themselves indispensable to an EV world? The cars I always felt were a sideshow in achieving this.
Totally agree that this cannot be the way forward with this. Guess I'll wait for the EU "standardise the charge" pitch.