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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

but all of this stuff is still relatively new and I’m sure it’ll get better with time

What is the exact point of taking this attitude? Anybody who cares to look knows exactly what’s wrong with this stuff. It’s an astonishingly, and I mean “astonishing” as in “actually beyond ordinary human comprehension” as in “literally awe-inspiring”, wasteful means (whether your energy source is fossil fuels or solar!) of doing - at the absolute outside best - extraordinarily basic shit. Every single day the window of useful applications and potential improvements narrows incredibly rapidly, and the people who are fundamentally steering the whole programme are proven liars and scam artists, and proven beyond any shadow of a doubt at that?

Who cares if it’s relatively new, or if there’s room for mild-mannered optimism? What practical teeth does that argument have? What purpose does it actually serve beyond satisfying a basically shallow political impulse to moderate perceivedly heightened emotive responses to these incredibly stark facts?

The only actually reasonable response to this farrago is full-throated opposition to every element of the whole show which is either a lie or covering for a lie, which is virtually every single element. If all that you’re left with is “hey, transformers are pretty cool, and I look forward to seeing how they contribute in their own partial way to our collective technical means of saving the planet, and incidentally anti-trust legislation should put people like Altman behind bars for the rest of their lives” then so be it! That’s a far more even-handed and fundamentally sensible response than blithely insisting that the occasional trinket has room for improvement - in fact if you’re liberal-minded it’s the essential output of any sensible thoughts on how to maintain a democratic society.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

this should be a post

[–] LargeMarge 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Someone else made this analogy somewhere else on this post, but the first cars sucked too. Horses were probably a legitimately better option for quite a while before cars developed enough to become what they are today.

If all that you’re left with is “hey, transformers are pretty cool, and I look forward to seeing how they contribute in their own partial way to our collective technical means of saving the planet, and incidentally anti-trust legislation should put people like Altman behind bars for the rest of their lives” then so be it!

Cool, because that's pretty much what I'm trying to get at here. It's a shame the people running the companies developing these tools are shitheads, but that doesn't change the fact that the underlying technology has potential and personally I look forward to seeing how it develops. There are people all over this thread (rightfully) criticizing climate impacts and shady business practices, but that doesn't mean copilot can't be useful sometimes or that it can't become more useful with time. To me it just seems like people willfully ignore any potential good this tech could bring just because others aren't using it very well right now.