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What if we discuss Debian?
You're smart just not an elitist.
What if I use Ubuntu but I'd rather talk about the kernel than distros?
Is that before or after you talk about unity not being that bad?
I loved the Amazon spyware Ubuntu days
Yeha, mistakes have been made but I guess those are understandable for the biggest distro. But that's the past. We can always switch between distros when needed. Atm Ubuntu is fine.
Idk did you stan for 24.06 or are you still a reasonable person like "why that OS so big?"
I honestly just want to enjoy Linux. If I'm concerned about what happens in every update, I won't enjoy it.
So I leave the worrying to other people. If something really bad happens that I need to know about, I'll probably hear about it on these communities.
"Ubuntu did this crazy thing!!!"
Google -> how to disable this crazy thing?
disables the crazy thing
So far I haven't been hacked (almost 7 years using it) or murdered by the phantom of the bloat. Everything works fine. The only issues I've had are Nvidia related. Fuck Nvidia.
Ubuntu literally delivers the promise of a user friendly experience, which is what I want. I don't want to obsess about the libraries or Init system my distro uses. I just want it to work. I'll let other amazing minds to worry about the philosophy and technical aspects while I just cruise.
I know I can relax thanks to other people who really worry and want everything to be perfect. I'm really grateful with them, I just don't want to be them.
My concern when I see bloat is "what are you hiding?"
And to me it represents the possibility that Ubuntu with Firefox is trying to make a marketable OS, which is just Windows with extra steps.
But overall I hear you. I daily drive Ubuntu 22.04, Ubuntu Server 22.04, Debian 12.5 and Windows 11 (sigh)
That's exactly what Canonical is trying to do. They are trying to create a system with all the batteries included so people don't need to worry about installing extra stuff, which means that of course they'll have a bunch of bloat if you don't use everything they offer, which is probably the case.
Their end goal is to be able to push this to the masses and maybe one day be able to get compensation for their effort.
I wouldn't mind if Ubuntu becomes a Microsoft Windows-like product. If that's what it takes to steal people from the claws of Microsoft, I'm OK with that. That would mean that hardware manufacturers will start developing specialized drivers for their hardware in Linux. To this day, in freaking 2024, I need to have a Windows image in order to configure my headset and mouse because developing the interfaces for Linux is pointless for these companies.
We still have like 50 other distros we can use. Let Ubuntu be that bridge to bring more users to Linux.
I know it. Anyone who was alive in the 90s knows it.
But I usually get downvotes to hell because Firefox is the current best popular browser so fanboys gonna stan.
Then you're in an elderly home