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Rulings question... "creatures get" modifier and cards that care about power/toughness when creatures enter the battefield (lemmy.ml)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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What happens when an opponent plays a creature if I have a Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite in play ("opponent's creatures get -2/-2") and my opponent has Pantlaza in play? Does Pantlaza get the trigger off the creature's original stats or off the number resulting from Elesh's reduction?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks! This was my understanding as well but wanted to make sure since I haven't got a chance to directly see it in action in Arena. Thanks for the help!