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The censored one is probably Niger

UPDATE - special thanks to @[email protected] for making a map showing the countries without access to PSN:

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I’m not a big gamer so I’m not entirely getting this. It sounds like the issue is they want you to link your steam and PSN accounts, which people don’t want to do. And in some countries it’s even a TOS violation.

My question is, why would they have such a requirement to link the two accounts in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

~~One RUMOR I've heard is so it looks like more people are registering with PSN, to make up for loss of PS sales?~~ Doesn't make the most sense, but I'm sure its a mixture of that and your data $$$

Edit: I'm sure they are using the increase of accounts to make theirs elves look more favorable. All around, it's shitty, and helldivers will suffer for it. Steam has already allowed refunds from countries that can no longer play.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That would be pretty obvious fraud, I doubt that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which part? I'm sure it would be fraud to pad their numbers that way. Unless they used a seperate metric which looked favorable to shareholders since number of accounts goes up.

The data part I don't think you meant to cast doubt on, thats a given.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I meant padding their numbers like that yes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

For me, it was the 2011 Playstation Hack.

Credit card data was encrypted, but Sony admitted that other user information was not encrypted at the time of the intrusion.

After that, I swore I would never give a corporation that lax with personal information my own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The publishet is Sony. This way Sony can harvest your data and has total control over bans. If they didnt force the links bans for pc players would go through steam and could be challenged over steam in the case of an unfair ban.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That isn’t how bans work at all. The only bans which go through steam are VAC bans, and those are not a requirement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're mistaken. If they make you log into PSN to play the game, then being banned via PSN would also lock you out of the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That isn’t what they are saying. They claim Sony needs PSN for the game in order to enforce a ban, otherwise it has to go through Steam.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only data they can get is what you already share in game. And a little portion of what is on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You obviously have to give them whatever data is required for a PSN account. You could give them fake personal data of course, but good luck remembering your fake info if you ever need to reset your password.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

~~The legitimate reason is for crossplay.~~ Sony said in the announcement it was for player "protection", so they could ban people. Plus there is no doubt some data tracking going on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But cross-platform worked just fine before this requirement? Or atleast well enough, I've been playing with a PS4 friend for the last month.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Did it? I stand corrected, then.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a Sony online game and it shouldn't have worked without an account in first place on PC. But they allowed it regardless due to server issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

It explicitly said you do not need a PSN account to play, in a number of places. Both on the game page, on the Sony FAQ page, and the Steam page too I believe.

It was bait and switch, which is why so many people are upset.