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2024 European farmers’ protests: Europe’s climate agenda appears dead on arrival | Vox (www.vox.com)

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Imo a very good article outlining the contradictions that underlie EU farming policies from an outisder's perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It if wasn't farmers making your food, it would be you making it. If it wasn't other people providing all the goods and services farmers need, they would be doing it.

Human society is interdependent. Farmers are not aristocrats, they are ordinary citizens providing a service in return for money. Including quite a lot of taxpayers' money, incidentally.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What are you even arguing? Why do you think farmers are protesting?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If I may: The point is that the current generation of farmers is expendable to humanity. The ability to continue to generate food is not (as you alluded to in your own fallacy above).

If farmers are rapidly destroying their and our ability to generate food the way we have in the past millenia (by depleting soil, overusing water reserves, accelerating loss of critical biodiversity, and encouraging climate conditions not conducive to farming), we should maybe not be listening to their whining.

[–] Grandwolf319 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah people don’t get this, we can’t keep doing things the way we have before.

It has nothing to do with being fair or people’s lively hood (although we should put effort into good transition plans). We can’t do certain farming practices anymore cause nature if forcing our hand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Also, it's not that there are no alternatives. Vertical farming, for example, is developing extremely fast as an environmental friendly way to produce food. Demands are changing and like every serious business they should strive to adapt instead of clinging to an aging business model.