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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (20 children)

So he picks shows that had some racism in them as justification that we should still have racism around for entertainment purposes?

He also picked shows that were "extreme left" for their time. M*A*S*H was full of left-wing morals and speeches from the pens of both Larry Gelbart and Alan Alda and was savagely critical of an American war against communists while America was still in Vietnam.

Mary Tyler Moore was about an independent career woman in the 1960s, when women weren't allowed to have their own credit cards.

All in the Family was about a conservative racist constantly being shown that the world had moved on from his archaic ideas about the way things should be.

So what is his issue with the "extreme left" exactly if those were the shows he picked?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (9 children)

So what is his issue with the "extreme left" exactly if those were the shows he picked?

You could legit just read the screenshot and answer your own question.

Looks like Jerry is a pretty mainstream liberal who is okay with shows tackling issues of their own volition, but doesn't appreciate the current production model of everything having to pass through focus groups, committees, and wanker consultants, coming out the other side so impotent and safe that it doesn't arouse the intellect enough to really make a point or stand for anything specific.

Like if you watch Disney stuff and think that's normal, you're part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (8 children)

the current production model of everything having to pass through focus groups, committees, and wanker consultants

Sorry... you think that's current? It's always been that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

American television was always known for production interference, but it was mostly from advertisers, bored executives, and censors. Not even close to the same thing, widespread use of focus testing and demographic committees and having 12 different sensitivity consultants is all relatively modern, and that's on top of most of the traditional interference.

And you in all likelihood knew all this, but chose to waste our time anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That is absolute nonsense. And I do know this because I worked in the entertainment industry for over 10 years. Did you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ignoring the my-uncle-works-for-microsoft flex for a moment, are you trying to pretend we're talking about changes that occurred in the last 10 years? Jerry was working in television 35 years ago, and is talking about programmes even prior to that. You probably weren't even born then.

It didn't take long for Lemmy to turn into a carbon copy of reddit, I barely post here and you're like the third dude in the last day to pull the same sleight of hand by trying to change the argument.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First of all, I'm almost 47. I watched Seinfeld episodes the day they aired.

Secondly, focus groups have been a thing for many, many decades. Long before Seinfeld existed. In fact, before television existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_group

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