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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Emissions can’t be stopped at the point of consumption.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn't say we can stop it at our individual points of consumption. They explicitly mentioned policy. People need to be willing to support policy that will drastically change their own lives, likely in ways they don't even realize, and be ready to live with that. Otherwise pretty soon we won't be living with much at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

don’t @ me about “100 corporations are responsible for like 90% of emissions”. Who’s buying those corporations’ goods?

Suggesting that the consumer is responsible for emissions at the point of production betrays a deep misunderstanding of climate change.

Suggesting that “people’s” willingness to support policy that would change their lives is holding back cuts to emissions at the point of production betrays a similarly deep misunderstanding of political power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is it exactly. We have to turn off the f*cking spigot at the source!

There is no amount of science or innovation that's going to save us. It's going to take "holy shit we're all going to die horribly" panic from world leaders to forcefully cut off the source, which is oil and its byproducts.

Short of that, no amount of responsible consumerism can stem this tide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not immediately but they'll stop producing if people stop buying. Just takes a lot of people to have any meaningful change. And that starts with every single one of us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that'll never happen, because everyone else will ignore you and just buy the shit anyway.

It NEEDS to be regulatory change. Shaming consumers into not consuming doesn't work. Oil companies want you to think it works, that's why THEY invented the concept of the carbon footprint. To make everyone ignore real solutions that could actually work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Think globally, act locally" and other such clever slogans that seemed so logical and made so little impact.

How about "round up the heads of oil companies and deliver them to a firing squad?"

Not as much zing to it though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That can never work. You can’t boycott a business into not producing.