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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Forced upgrades are necessary, people would put off updating for no reason

Bad updates are not necessary

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

OS upgrades vs security updates is a whole different ballgame. We should not confuse the two.

Windows forces major upgrades in many cases, sometimes rendering the device inoperable because OS upgrades carry inherent risks. Forced upgrades are simply irresponsible. We need that consent to let the user back up files beforehand as a bare minimum, even overlooking the ethics side of user consent. Is MS going to fix my parents PC when they break it?

Forced updates? I see the argument, but I have to insist on user consent at all times. By default is okay. Explicitly violating the human’s will seems wrong. Software should serve people. But I can understand the argument even if I don’t agree with forced updates.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

💯

That's what I love about Linux: you have options.

  • Security updates automatically, but only restart or do feature upgrades manually?
    • You got it.
  • Automatically update everything as soon as it comes out, with a little pop-up to let you know you should restart?
    • Sure thing boss.
  • Automate the entire process with reboots scheduled during off-hours?
    • No problem.
  • Never update anything without being asked?
    • There's a setting for that.

It empowers the user to choose what works best for them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

And that is why I've got my dad on Mint. He would not dare to even do a point upgrade himself. Until two days ago he was on 20.2 or smth. But he does the small updates quite diligently, like I told him. System admin dream of such users.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Windows has forced updates because people like your parents would otherwise never update and then still blame Microsoft for their computer breaking because of bugs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

They put off updates because they are afraid of further inshitification. They created the problem.