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Tesla’s in its flop era (www.theverge.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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When Tesla releases its first quarter earnings this afternoon, the company’s CEO Elon Musk will field the usual questions about new products, new factories, and progress toward its futuristic vision of self-driving cars and robot workers. But Musk will also face increasingly urgent questions about its current state of affairs — and why everything seems to be going to shit.

Earlier this month, the company reported its first year-over-year sales drop in four years, a sign of rougher waters ahead. Tesla’s stock has fallen more than 40 percent since the start of the year, including a 13 percent drop in the last week. The company laid off over 14,000 employees last week, 10 percent of its global workforce — which could end up being closer to 20 percent when all’s said and done, according to Bloomberg. Today’s earnings report is expected to include Tesla’s lowest profit margins in six years, a sign that rampant price-cutting continues to exact a toll.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Chevy Bolt is full EV, and only $12,000 after some rebates that may only apply in California. It doesn't have 300 mile range, only 250-280. I haven't actually checked, but I think it has a motor on each wheel, so that would be 4WD. Unfortunately, they have decided to discontinue the Bolt after this year.

Edit: I just checked and, nope it's a FWD.

As far as the dealer is concerned, you can go to the manufacturer and buy directly. They cannot advertise to you that this is an option, in the US.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was also UAW made. Which is one of the most important things for me when it comes to buying a new vehicle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is a good point, I'm more inclined to support a unionized company. Still... my understanding is that GM and Ford (and others) all circumvent unionization by manufacturing (to some extent) in Mexico. I guess it depends on the individual car. I'm supportive of Federal and State EV incentives that prioritize made in the US, unionized manufacturing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Very true. The unfortunate reality is no vehicle manufacturer is friendly to the UAW (to my knowledge, though Volkswagen claims to be apathetic, but when I was a union member of a company they own it certainly felt like they had a problem with us). I don’t support these companies because they’re good companies I support them because I want the industry to face financial pressure towards unionized labor. And my alternative isn’t nonunion vehicles, it’s used vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, this is my dilemma. I have heard positive things about Ford and GM in regards to them making it easier to skip the dealership, so that at least addresses the convenience factor. Another factor in wanting to avoid the dealership is that I don't trust their business model where they sell you a car that they want you to bring in regularly for maintenance. I'd rather buy from a company that doesn't see vehicle service as a revenue opportunity. Does that apply to Tesla? I'm not sure, but I know that's how the traditional dealership model works so it's hard to trust those companies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I really like my Bolt, it perfectly suits my needs and I love driving it. I think the biggest compromise that makes it unattractive for long distance travel is the relatively slow charging speed. I very rarely do that, however, and if I did I might rent a different vehicle.