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First known test dogfight between AI and human pilot carried out, US military says (news.sky.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The aircraft flew up to speeds of 1,200mph. DARPA did not reveal which aircraft won the dogfight.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Are dogfights even still a thing?
I remember playing an F15 simulator 20 years ago where "dogfighting" already meant clicking on a radar blip 100 miles away, then doing something else while your missile killed the target.

[–] freeman 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well if both sides get working stealth dogfights are going to become more common.

But the US seems to estimate it's adversaries do not have such capability at the moment since it's ordering new F-15s with the major change being air to air missile capacity.

Missiles also did not have 100 miles range 20 years ago. That's without considering actually detecting and tracking the target.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Missiles also did not have 100 miles range 20 years ago.

Somewhat missing then point there I feel.

They are right, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read the headline, aircraft don't really engage in dog fights anymore. It's all missiles and long-range combat. I don't think any modern war would involve aircraft shooting at each other with bullets.

[–] freeman 1 points 7 months ago

No not really, my point is that people have a distorted and exaggerated view of BVR. 100 miles was beyond even the max range of common missiles and even with modern missiles like meteor it's completely unrealistic to fire at that kind of range. Provided that you have detected and are able to track the target at that range.

I don't know if modern planes will have to resort to guns but WVR dogfights with IR missiles are more likely than destroying F-35s at BVR ranges.

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